Here’s the latest “Please come comment at our blog and get us some hits” post directed I assume at me. I don’t really know what half of what this aging Canadian Hag is talking about but here it is:
“Rabbit Trail: There are detractors who’ve taken to insulting the girl gamers as either inexperienced gits or old hags who are desperate for babies or who may be trannies (I like that one -heh). Ya know I’m kind of flattered by the additional attention – it shows me we’ve struck a nerve. People who have nothing to say have no one to say anything about them – therefore dear readers I conclude we do have something to say and something worthwhile to boot. Bring it on haters. Mind you we might just ban you – we’re bitchy like that. “
I’m assuming they were hoping I’d go comment there and bring them readers, but for God’s sake I’m not a Miracle Worker!!
That’s post is from “Aoefe”, the age 45 size 10-12 (says she), intellectual dullard who’s blog is all about her nightly dates with older, desperate men. Right. And she’s never been married. Or even had prospects. And no kids. Clearly she’s the authority on dating just like Lil Girl is the authority on being a useless chink.
I AM interested in who called who a “tranny” and am wondering which one the “tranny” is. I have no idea who she is referencing there because I have never called any of them “trannies”. The lady doth protest too much, eh?
I’m confused as to how Aoefe or any of the the cunts over there got the impression that people who criticize their blog find “Girl Game” offensive. Actually seeing even ONE post that actually related to “Girl Game” over there would be great, but sadly…..they continue to post photos of girls with large breasts….snippy remarks to try to get anyone to give a enough of a shit to comment there (their warning about “banning” people….lol…I’m sure they’ll be “banning” any of the 3 total readers there.)….and hitting on any and every man who posts any sort of comment of any kind.
It’s a foreign, desperate, aging “E-Harmony” but with less attractive people….and less prospects.
The problem with their blog is that it contains absolutely nothing truthful or useful to a woman. It’s basically a narrative about the things that men WISH women do or say……and the things single, desperate women wished worked on men.
I get the impression that they think I’m “competing” with them in some way….but I think I’ve made it abundantly clear that being a “dating” blogger is something that doesn’t interest me. That’s the sad part. That I can post something that at least has an ATTEMPT at genuine advice in less than 10 minutes….and an entire blog of girls supposedly dedicated to “Girl Game” haven’t posted even ONE bit of game, ANY advice, or anything of value and CALL themselves a “dating blog”.
And then get pissed when another female blogger DARES to critique their advice or question the source of their info??? These girls sincerely cannot take the heat nor can they resist providing the ammo for me to continue to swat them around like a ball of string (only for my amusement of course).
Aoefe also went on at some point to refer to “single mothers” and “STDs” in the same sentence with “problems”.
Obviously, that was intended as advice to the average woman and not a snippy attempt at a dig. I cannot imagine what mother on earth would be insulted to be called….”a mother”. There is nothing about being a mother, whether single or not that is like a disease. I’m sorry for her that she cannot get anyone to give her a family and that it’s clearly much to late for her to even think about having a child, but I can only imagine what OTHER female readers are thinking when they see an old bag like her refer to single mothers as a “disease”. Yes, way to prove that your blog contains valid, realistic dating advice to women.
Yes I’m sure all the single mothers who are busy loving their children and finding joy in watching them grow are REALLY jealous of her barren uterus and her empty, loveless life. Sadly, this is not uncommon for women to intentionally give other women bad advice. It’s a desperate and (in my opinion) horrible manipulative thing to do to people who probably really are looking for some advice or help.
I’d really like to be able to someday say “I read this pretty decent blog on dating for women…..” but I have yet to see one that isn’t riddled with the egos of the writers…..or the bitterness. Take your pick. I’m ashamed to say that I think men are more likely to offer each other valid dating advice than women are. Clearly Girl Game is just another blog that plays to whatever male commenters they have and NOT to any women or even men that want to “take a peek inside the female mind”.
Anyway….this post was funny to read and definitely worth sharing. Thank goodness we have ladies like these to take our leftovers…..
You know you’re way out of touch with reality when you’re 45, single, and still saying things like “Bring it On, Haters”. That one made me almost roll off the chair….
I think their blog and their posts really speak FOR them in terms of whether they have any advice worth taking…..I’m just posting the funny stuff.
Well considering the true awfulness of the“GirlGame” (also known as: “Horrible Shame”) blog that is now a thriving wealth of information….by “wealth” I mean a total of 6 really bad posts….and 7 contributors. They apparently wanted to have a Female Version of “Game” with a clusterfuck of contributors (obviously all women).
Unfortunately they are not only ANGRY but OFFENDED that people are TELLING them how badly their advice and blog sucks.
I recently made the mistake of making my first comment EVER there. I pointed out what I thought was obvious to anyone who’s familiar with these ladies and/or their blogs.
Some of their contributors have openly admitted that they are “just playing to a male audience and not trying to give any REAL advice at all.” They fail to see why I made the comment that I did about their work…..or lack thereof.
Sure, a “GirlGame” Blog is a cute idea….but obviously is completely unnecessary even if it was VALID, let alone when it’s a bunch of teenagers and old ladies (who are either single and looking or single and divorced) giving out advice.
Putting that one comment on their blog was enough to invoke two shrieking harpies AND an (alleged) troll to come over HERE and start flinging their ovaries at each other and of course at me for my apparently REALLY controversial comment.
This is an example of why I’d NEVER be real Feminist. I’d have absolutely NO desire to be a voice for women like these. This is also why I refuse to ever have female friends. (Women are fucking crazy and ridiculous for sure.) Dumb asses that play to the “giggle and act dumb” or “smile and act virginal” stereotypes that men WISHED were true.
You would think that a “new” blog like theirs would appreciate criticism…..or even insults! ANY attention they get would be good at this point. You’d ALSO think that if they were SO sensitive to comments and critique that they’d just not allow comments or moderate them…but no, acting JUST like the stereotype and starting a slap-fight over it was CLEARLY the better option.
Most are foreign, older, and anti-feminist. They “claim” that they are NOT old, desperate, and just like “Sex in the City”…..but then I have to ask why their advice and blog are SO bad if that’s the case? If they are all “catches” and are SO successful in love, then why did they intentionally offer bad advice to women? Wouldn’t they have blog after blog of fantastic advice for the commoners? Yeah….normally one who makes such claims WOULD have the evidence to back it. They didn’t bother.
Because their blog is a sad attempt to get blog hits and to scratch the backs of other bloggers who link them. Just take note of the blogroll and the mystery will be solved for you as well. Also take note of the commentors. Hmmmm….it’s kinda weird that one a “Girl Game” blog there’s all men who read at MRA and PUA sites.
Why would girls who READ at PUA sites offer bad advice that would make them fall right into the trap of a PUA? OH, that’s right….because they’re desperately scratching the backs of them for blog hits and the “semi-attractive-Asian” front-woman is the only one who’s allowed to talk (Lil Girl) because she’s supposedly the “smart/hot” one. And anyone who knows her knows she’s just….well….the Asian. (Picture the members of a boy-band and you’ll kind of get the idea.)
Now, it’s not like it’s unusual to see a bad “dating” blog. That seems to be the default topic people choose because there’s “always someone desperate enough” to read ANY advice. Whether good or bad.
It’s not unusual to see a bad “Women’s Dating Advice” Article or Blog, either. Most blogs about dating that come from women OR men is all about the things they WISH were true. (For example: Fat girls talking about how men LOVE their curves and how “skinny women” are a thing of the past). IE: Projection.
It’s sad that both men and women seem unable to give REAL or honest advice to their own gender….but I guess it’s all about competition to most people. Eh, whatever….
The point is that these Ladies really irritate me because they don’t even PRETEND that they believe their own advice. They ADMIT that it’s just to “play to their 99% male audience”……but then in the same breath SHRIEK about a woman critiquing their blog???
Are you kidding me? Any woman who ended up their (probably by accident) and actually NEEDED or WANTED some advice would find herself a 45 year old virgin. Oh, wait….I think they already have one of those, too.
I may be a bitch and sometimes I’m a villain…..but I would never EVER create an entire blog JUST to mislead my own gender, give bad advice, and scratch the backs of other bloggers. If they want to do that, they should make it clear that their blog is meant to be a parody….or a joke….
Anything would be better than saying it’s about “Girl Game”. Don’t take my word for it, read and actually attempt to USE any of the advice given there. I think anyone with sense would see what I see.
If not, well then I guess those girls should be grateful for the blog hits I’m giving them, then eh? Anyway….here we have the comments section of the particular gem I’m referring to. (And yes I’m posting this solely for my own entertainment and to be a bitch, of course).
His Poxyness alluded to what I wanted to say about this, although he has the benefit of experience as well.
Gender roles exist in a society (as well as roles allocated based on age and other parameters). The benefits of this is that social behaviour is regulated. Everyone knows what their job is: your job is to indicate your interest and warrant it while his job is to act on it. If either of you don’t do the proper work, then it’s doomed either way.
There are hardships in both cases: he risks the pain of rejection while you risk indicating interest to males you are not interested in, which in some cases results in sexual assault. You just do what you have to do and deal with it.
Women may read this and get bummed out, but it’s important to remember that we aren’t helpless in this role. Women can make themselves more attractive and appealing for who they want, which I think is the idea here.
I feel that asking a man out is appealing for some women because they get to go for who they want, maybe their “dream” guy, without feeling shame. They’re reaching out of their league perhaps, but have lumped men into the same category as the job and the money – what they can now acquire through hard work and achievement. But long-term interest from men of their choice doesn’t (and perhaps never will) fall into that category of what the modern woman can attain with her growing career/social power. This can be confusing for some people in a time when women can “have it all.”
So I spend some time in lawyer/finance circles here in NYC and the dynamic is interesting. Some of the guys are very, well, they totally fit what is being described here and the debate that went on in Sofia’s post. Some other ones, though, who could probably be described as having been well inundated with messages re: coercion towards women, paternalism, women are equal, blah blah, expect women to ask them out. They wait for such a clear indication of interest from women, for her to kiss him first or ask him to dinner first or take his pants off first, that I can’t imagine them asking a girl out. When I’ve asked about the reasoning it always seems to be some element of coercion, or force, or making the woman uncomfortable, or something. (date rape avoidance!)
A lot of the time the women are in the same career fields; I don’t know if their m.o. would change when dealing with an elementary school teacher, but I don’t think so.
What is interesting is that most of these guys I know are just as successful, in their career and with women, as the more ‘traditional’ ones. Women seem to fall for them, they for women, they’re not doormats in life generally, the women might have to initiate the physical aspects of the relationship (I suspect the women probably has to initiate any more adventuresome elements too, you know, but forcing a woman is baaaaad), but once it’s on, the men seem to take over some significant portion of leadership/dominance/traditional role, etc.
I don’t agree. Some guys are extremely shy and would in fact go out with girls if they asked them.
Some other guys have a policy that they will absolutely not chase women or ask them out, but wait til women do that to them. It’s a sort of “taste of your own medicine” mode they are in.
There are all sorts of people out there and I just don’t agree that “if he doesn’t ask you out he’s not into you” applies across the board.
Regarding Lindsey, if it’s not broke – why fix it?
Sometimes guys just really want to have a girl “friend” – a woman whom they can be open and emotional with – without having to deal with the drama that a sexual dynamic would bring to the relationship. Men and women both enjoy the masculine and feminine energy of the “other” – why ruin a good thing by introducing sex into the picture?
She should have left well enough alone and she would still have a good male friend in this man.
If he’s not asking you out, he’s just not that into you? Not necessarily always so, though generally largely true; I speak from personal experience as a guy, here. Extreme shyness, as Real Woman points out, can be an extreme barrier, insurmountable to some, sadly. For myself, it took years for me to push past my shyness in general (not just in terms of girls I was interested in), and undergo a personality shift from apparently introverted to apparently extraverted (I sometimes wonder which is/was more the real me, hence the qualifier ‘apparently’, though I do believe it has been a genuine change).
Other factors may be at work, too. For some, like myself, to some extent, self-confidence with women is bound up with self-confidence in other respects; it can be a real downer to lose one’s job, and the blow to one’s self-confidence as regards career success can spill over into other areas of life, such as male-female interaction, I’ve found. Especially given women’s notoriously hypergamous tendencies; I’ve hesitated about asking out a girl I was really into, because of that (after losing my job).
Then there’s the situation where one is attracted to more than one woman at once, and feels compelled to make a choice (if one is not comfortable with pursuing multiple women; sometimes I am, sometimes not; it depends). This has happened to me on two separate occasions, and I felt compelled to make a choice – and did. On another occasion, I did ask out two different girls around the same time, and would have been prepared to casually date both for a while, but when one of them flaked, my decision was made for me.
I don’t have much time to comment, but just want to say I agree with the points in your post LILGRL.
I feel like many guys will say that no, it’s OK if a girl asks them out, they would marry a girl who made the first move – it doesn’t impact how much they grow to like her.
But these exception cases you referrred to are so rare, that I think making the first blatant move in terms of asking him out is *very* risky.
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I’ve seen girls latch on to successful guys in the way you’ve described. I know of one girl who met a hedge funder, who basically ended up moving into his home and becoming so involved in his life that he *needed* her to function (she was like a de facto wife, and she even did stuff like try to isolate him from friends so he’d rely more on her). It reminded me of the story of Evita, and how she sat next to Gen. Peron when the seat opened up. And within a day (or days?), she moved into his home and kicked out his old girlfriend. She was such an important part of his popularity in those days, she became indispensible to him – so he was stuck to her. (I’m ignoring the idea of some great love between them, of course.)
With the girl I know, they eventually married, but I always wondered what might happen if he has a wake-up moment and realizes that he didn’t play the field as much as he wished. Or if she cracks and he starts to resent that she runs all non-work areas of his life so much. It’s risky… I think her keeping them so involved with Church will also help though, in terms of instilling an anti-divorce sentiment. (He might cheat though, no….)
As regards the issue of whether a guy is cool with a girl asking him out, I completely concur with LILGRL; no, absolutely not, even in trying times, for the reasons LILGRL stated; not even for a shy (sometimes) guy with (sometimes) self-confidence issues. That’s one beef I have with the whole ‘online dating’ sites like plentyoffish, eharmony, and the like; because it’s such a new phenomenon, the social rules seem more fluid, and so more girls feel comfortable with approaching guys online, but I don’t think it’s a good thing. I’ve belonged to one such site, and in addition to pursuing some girls myself, have been approached by some girls, and have met a couple in person, but it didn’t work out, and I do think such is not the ideal way for people to meet each other, even though I acknowledge it has worked, for some.
I’ve seen girls latch on to successful guys in the way you’ve described.
This is not at all what I meant, which is a different phenomena. I’m talking about guys who wait for an overt signal of x from a woman, who are open that they do so.
Well, she made it very clear that she was available, and was just waiting for him to make the next move…she stared deep into his eyes and all that girly stuff that girls do that screams “I want you! Take me now!”
sorry i had to edit. still, its amazing what a 20 year-old dating one guy for 4 years can relate.
I feel like many guys will say that no, it’s OK if a girl asks them out, they would marry a girl who made the first move – it doesn’t impact how much they grow to like her.
I’ve certainly heard this from guys — “I would be fine with a girl asking me out — it would be cool, because girls don’t usually do that!” — but every last one of them has only ever had successful relationships with girls that they’ve asked out. If they’ve been in girl-initiated relationships, it’s really just been because they were lazy or felt kind of bad for the girl (or they were gay). And the girls would rationalize it — “Oh, he’s just really shy. Really dense. He’s not the type of guy to ask girls out.”
But, of course, the second a girl that they were really into came along, suddenly their shyness/denseness/stand against conformity just flew out the window.
He feels like the relationship has gotten off on the wrong foot.
Agree…
Not too long ago I was walking and met a nice girl in the park. We talked for awhile, walked together for awhile, and exchanged #s afterward.
She was very engaging in the conversation (quite playful/joking), but we didn’t have our phones with us so we offered to go by memory, and in case that didn’t work she told me her full name and to facebook her. Texted her something along the lines of “Hey this is X from the park, did I get the right number?” She responded 12+ hours later. Shrug, texted back an offer to meet up for drinks, another extremely long delay, basically saying sure just not the day I offered, she’s busy.
In any case, I didn’t text back. Didn’t like the transition from gregarious and almost seemingly eager to aloof/distant.
They were very close — and you could tell there was some sexual tension there — so it didn’t make sense to her as to why he hadn’t asked her out.
It’s obvious that Lindsay didn’t have the acrylic nails that her male friend desired.
Well, I’ve not ever seen one of these relationships work, and for a number of reasons
I’m obviously unique, but if a girl started coming on to me, I’d presume that something was wrong with her. In other words, she’s desperate and is so desperate for a man in her life that I’m now worth magically attractive. Having the guy ask you out is probably the best way to filter for the low self-esteem types.
Sometimes guys just really want to have a girl “friend” – a woman whom they can be open and emotional with – without having to deal with the drama that a sexual dynamic would bring to the relationship.
I think there’s a certain truth to that. I think part of the fun of a platonic relationship is that I get to play beta without having to worry about if it leads to sex or not. I don’t have to put on some faux-amplified masculinity to get her wet, but instead I can just be me, and secure some degree of female companionship with none of the work that a boyfriend requires. Plus, it’s a boost to the ego since you’re “useful”.
Besides, there’s a different dynamic when you go out with a female. Two guys sitting in a car about their lives while drinking Starbucks is kinda gay, but if it’s a male female, it’s magically different.
I think that one particular setting that may call for some “soft” asking out by ladies – defined as inviting the guy to tag along to a group social gathering – is particularly conservative particular work settings.
Let me explain: let’s say you are a guy at a company that kinda-does-frown-upon co-worker relationships without prohibiting them unless in boss-subordinate positions – the latter for obvious reasons – . That guy will be very careful of fooling around at work, particularly so if he’s relatively successful. While a few guys will blitz through those self-imposed barriers by sheer alphaness, most other guys will be much less prone to do so.
Within that particular frame, I believe it is correct for the woman to initiate. I don’t expect the woman to ask the guy out one-on-one for drinks, but she should take that first step to removing awkwardness from socializing outside the workplace.
On it’s face, the statement “If he’s not asking you out, he’s just not that into you” is wrong because there are plenty of guys with crushes that wont ask out the girl they’re into out of fear or because they don’t know if she likes him back.
To address the article: it seems like women still don’t get how this works. If you initiate a relationship then you’re the one that’s taken responsibility for it. So don’t get bent out of shape when you’re the one doing all the legwork. That’s your job.
Something to think about: there are men who create one version of this situation deliberately. They encourage a woman to believe they are genuinely interested, but held back because of some internal shyness or something of the sort, only to reject the woman when, finally driven to desperation by uncertainty about what he wants, she makes some sort of “move” on him, whether it’s asking him out, or kissing him, or something of the sort. Once he has achieved this goal, he takes pleasure in saying “no” to her. I’ve watched this happen several times.
I know women are often guilty of the same kind of toying with a man’s feelings. Some of our sex enjoy the sensation of being surrounded by a small crowd of admiring pseudo-friends of the male sex to whom they are not really attracted, but who flatter women’s vanity by their presence.
I only wanted to suggest that that sort of behaviour is not the sole province of women. Men do it too, though (perhaps!) more rarely, with the difference that, unlike women, no man will ever encourage, even in small ways, the attentions of a woman to whom he feels zero sexual attraction.
So he may well be “into” you, to some degree, if you’re a reasonably attractive member of the female sex, even if he hasn’t asked you for a date yet. The issue is whether he wants or intends to act on it – or whether he may want to manipulate you into declaring your interest in him because this makes him feel more in control than the other way around. He may even harbour a grudge against women for earlier rejections in his awkward and shy youth, and be taking it out on you. If you suspect you’ve run into this kind of man, DON’T ask him out. Run away as fast as you can.
To all the guys who think a girl asking out is totally cool, what are male indicators of interest? Game instructs men to watch for IOIs from women. Keeping the goal of GirlGame, commitment, in mind what are the signals a girl should watch for before asking a guy out.
To all the guys who think a girl asking out is totally cool, what are male indicators of interest?….what are the signals a girl should watch for before asking a guy out.
If he’s not asking you out, he’s just not that into you
The problem with this sentence is that there is any number of good reasons why he might not be asking you out. It could be something as simple as bad breath, and he wants to wait until he can get better breath before asking you out.
Sure, they had a pretty decent relationship for a couple of months, but you could tell that neither of them were that into it.
How do you it would have been different if he asked her out instead of the other way around?
Even if he is a super-shy, super-introverted, super-anti-people person…if he likes you, he’ll ask you out.
This is wrong big time.
There are many reasons why he might not ask you out. A big possibility is being beat down with feminist indoctrination between kindergarten and 12th grade and in college if he went.
In the end JD has convinced me that’s it better for men to ask out women than the other way around since women are so crap at it.
Well, if he’s looking in your direction, he’ll be happy to talk to you.
I’ll assume, since you’re posting on this site, that you mean long-term interest. Sorry to say, men decide whether you’re worth a relationship, a one-nighter, or nothing at all AFTER they’ve talked for a while. But there are signs that he’s looking for an LTR in general, and that you could fulfill them. Look for these:
If you go talk to him, and he pays attention to you, he might be interested.
If he talks as much as he listens, he’s interested. “Great listeners” might be interested as well… or they might be players who have long since learned to let their mind wander and nod at appropriate times. But talkers are trying to get to know you, and to impress you.
If your friends try to pull you away on some pretense, and you refuse them, then you will MAKE him interested.
If he glances at your chest once in a while, but mostly keeps eye contact, he’s interested. Guys who maintain perfect eye contact are either gay or players.
If he does not sleep with you the night you meet him, but still calls you later, he’s interested.
I think you make an excellent point about the unpleasant consequences which might arise as the result of a woman asking a man out. Whereas the woman might have planned and strategized for a while because she has let her heart out of the bag, the man who has been asked will more than likely be so excited and flattered that he will read into this the promise of sure sex. And he’s probably right. And like most men, he will gladly accept with a big, shit-eating grin.
I can honestly state that at my point in life, if a woman were to ask me out I would not reflexively answer “yes.” I would need to examine the proposal first. Is she intelligent, would we have great conversation, would we enjoy sharing common activities, would we have a hot sex life…a lot factors at play here. “Yes” is not a given.
I’m a traditionalist and it’s no mistake that social and even physical evolution has brought us to this point where men are the ones who initiate physical relationships. With women’s non-verbal cues guiding the interactions. That is mother nature at work. My mom used to say that a man chased a woman until she caught him. I never understood that until much later in life.
Agree that a guy won’t know instantly if he wants long-term commitment, but it seems like many guys will pretty quickly assess if she’s someone to date, or to just pump&dump.
One thing that comes to mind, especially after reading Phoenixism’s story on the other post, is about what it means when a woman asks a guy out. Particularly when it’s a total stranger:
- She found him physically attractive
- His physical attractiveness was enough for her to want to talk to him
- How a guy looks is enough to make her want to talk to him
- How a guy looks might be enough for her to want to go out with him.
Someone may have already covered this, but there’s this almost implicit belief that women are *not* supposed to choose men in the dating and mating game based on physical attributes.
Men choose women for potential fertility markers – meaning physical beauty. Women do so similarly somewhat, but it seems like fertility is more of given. It’s the aggression and potential dominance of the male that’s supposed to attract her – along with ability to get his investment when they have kids together.
So a woman who is asking a guy out seems unnatural because she is “choosing” him perhaps based primarily on his looks – AND she isn’t prescreening him for aggressiveness, which is supposed to be the trait of a man that women find attractive.
I’ve always felt that women actually control the situation they just don’t realize it. By default women are shutting guys down, so any positive or encouraging response will stand out in sharp contrast to the norm. But it may take a few repeated encouraging remarks to get your point across.
I think women should not be afraid to indicate they are interested in a guy. Most guys are fairly shy. So they tend to not make a move unless they’re fairly certain they have a good chance. Normal guys are also surprisingly oblivious to women’s indications of interest.
For instance, I have had a woman wave and smile at me from across the street, and I was sure she must’ve been waving to someone behind me. Being the suave guy that I am, I whirled around and was astonished to find no one else on the street. In my mind, I was sure she was way out of my league and she couldn’t possibly have been interested in little old me.
Similarly, I’ve had a woman drop her sunglasses down to the bridge of her nose and give me the elevator look from head to toe. Again, I was sure this woman must have not realized I saw her, it never would cross my mind that she might actually like me, just for being a healthy normal guy.
So even blatant signs of interest can be missed. What I do find works and has worked on me, is a friendly, adventurous enthusiasm. For instance, when a woman smiles at me with that sparkle in her eye and says “hi”, and then asks me about the shirt I’m wearing, (and better yet reaches out and touches my shirt) it’s on!
When I met my wife I was not ready to have a girlfriend. I had recently just moved to the area, so I felt I needed a job, then a house, and only then could I start to look for a girlfriend. But I met my girlfriend before I had a job and she wasn’t letting my schedule get in our way. So she told me she had a crush on me and we just started casually dating, then I got a job, I bought a house with her input, and we’ve been married for about four years. But if it wasn’t for her openness early on I would have passed on by.
So ladies, be friendly and enticing because you never know how it will wind up.
The problem with this sentence is that there is any number of good reasons why he might not be asking you out. It could be something as simple as bad breath, and he wants to wait until he can get better breath before asking you out.
Okay, first of all — I don’t mean “asking you out right this freaking second”. I mean asking you out in general. You are clearly just trying to be contrary, and you’re not even doing a very good job at it.
How do you it would have been different if he asked her out instead of the other way around?
You’re right, I don’t know how it would have turned out, had he done the asking. And I will never really know. However, I can speculate based on all of the other relationships like this that I have seen (and have seen fail). Unfortunately, we will not ever be able to perform a perfect, controlled experiment…ever. Fortunately, most human beings are capable of deductive reasoning.
This is wrong big time.
There are many reasons why he might not ask you out. A big possibility is being beat down with feminist indoctrination between kindergarten and 12th grade and in college if he went.
Again, you must note that the key to my entire post is “THAT”. He might be into you! He might be REALLY INTO YOU!!! But he’s not THAT into you if he’s not asking you out. I know many very shy guys who have been beaten down with feminist indoctrination (not that this usually makes a difference, it’s more the whole “rejection” factor that usually gets them), and if they are just THAT into a girl, they will buck up and ask her out. I’m sorry, but there I’ve seen much evidence of this. It’s always a crazy thing, too, because you’ll think “Oh, that guy is way to shy, he’s never going to ask her out…” and then he does. This usually works the best when the girl is giving out VERY OBVIOUS IOI’s, but he’ll still ask a girl who isn’t, out, if he really likes her.
In the end JD has convinced me that’s it better for men to ask out women than the other way around since women are so crap at it.
This is idiotic. It doesn’t matter if women are good or bad at asking men out. It really doesn’t. If I went out on the street with my boyfriend, today, and we both started asking guys/girls out, respectively, there is no question that I would have a much higher success rate than would he. No question. Despite the fact that I have never asked a guy out in my life, and would thus “be crap at it”. Especially if we were asking people of the same caliber out. Heck, even if I was asking out male celebrities, and he was asking out female 2’s, I’d probably still have a very high rate of success, comparatively. His rate would not be 0, obviously, but it would always be lower than mine. Even though he has a lot of experience asking girls out, and I have no experience asking guys out.
This is not an article that says: women, don’t ask men out because he might reject you. Because that’s just about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Sorry, like I said before — I like you, but you’re not only arguing for the sole purpose of being contrary, you’re starting to sound really, really stupid.
If most women started asking men out, EVEN THOUGH THE MEN MIGHT BE WARY, most would enjoy a HUGE RATE OF SUCCESS, one that is MUCH, MUCH higher than men’s rates of success (EVEN FOR VERY ATTRACTIVE, SUCCESSFUL, HIGH-STATUS MEN). There are, obviously, some exceptions…but really, not that many. Really not.
Of course I’m being contrary. I have been told a lot of things that are accepted wisdom when it comes to this subject, i.e. being a virgin over 20ish (for a guy) means that you’re a loser that will never get laid. I have DIRECTLY proven so much of this “accepted wisdom” to be false. Why should I trust this assumption?
If I went out on the street with my boyfriend, today, and we both started asking guys/girls out, respectively, there is no question that I would have a much higher success rate than would he.
I thought you were defining success in the long term not who got an initial yes.
Again, you must note that the key to my entire post is “THAT”. He might be into you! He might be REALLY INTO YOU!!! But he’s not THAT into you if he’s not asking you out. I know many very shy guys who have been beaten down with feminist indoctrination (not that this usually makes a difference, it’s more the whole “rejection” factor that usually gets them), and if they are just THAT into a girl, they will buck up and ask her out.
This is why guys like The Fifth Horseman think the GG blog is going nowhere, and I’m seeing his point more and more. How high do you want to raise the “that” bar? TFH has talked about how feminists will combat increasing knowledge of game by ramping up the false rape industry. They will probably also do some things that neither I nor TFH will be able to predict. The point being is that what has happened is that asking women out now comes with increased risk to men than it did in the past. We can tell that this is a real problem already since feminist indoctrination increases the “that” bar.
There will be more risk in the future. A lot of guys aren’t going to be THAT into a woman, any woman, when risking jail time becomes a serious possibility. For instance I know with my experiment there will come a time when it will have to end because the risk will be too high. You can say in the future “he obviously isn’t into me THAT much”, but it doesn’t solve the problem or get you what you want. This will be a problem for women much more than men since men are more likely to be willing to go ghost.
ProMale/AntiFem, just give up. You will NOT win the argument with logic. LOL.
I’ve generally been pro-fem/anti-male til I started making friends with the “nice”, “geeky”, “loser” type guys that perhaps some women here don’t make friends with. I can say that in general, it’s they (men) who are more insecure and shy and scared and this and that, than women. These guys indeed may be “into” someone and just too scared (of rejection) to show it, what to speak of ask her out.
Or they may have a crush on a female friend but too afraid to take it to the next level because again they don’t want to be rejected AND they don’t want to ruin the good friendship they got going on.
There are many layers to a human being and “if he’s THAT into you, he WILL ask you out” just doesn’t take into account the myriad of factors that may be at play in MANY men’s lives.
And “morals” is indeed one reason why some men maybe virgins in their 20s. I know a few. Yeah there are still some young men out there who have morals with regards to their sexuality, believe it or not.
So yeah, the relatively “confident” guys who have previously had good reactions from women, they WILL ask a woman out if they are THAT into her. But not other guys. They will just hope to keep on bumping into the woman around town and hold out until SHE asks them out. Otherwise they are not risking another heartbreak and ego smashing.
“So a woman who is asking a guy out seems unnatural because she is “choosing” him perhaps based primarily on his looks – AND she isn’t prescreening him for aggressiveness, which is supposed to be the trait of a man that women find attractive.”…………..
This is ridiculous. Looks are very important to a woman and any woman who says they ain’t is lying.
Sure, we don’t require you to be Denzel Washington but we ain’t gonna ask you out or date you if you look like _________ fill in the blank with whoever you think is an ugly dude.
I wish women would stop playing like they are “deeper” than guys are.
And I wish guys would not be so in denial regarding the way they look.
Looks matter but as women get older they put less and less emphasis on looks. (Speaking from experience) Most of the women that chase after a guy for his looks are teenage girls and twilight fans.
“Most of the women that chase after a guy for his looks are teenage girls and twilight fans.”
Chase, maybe not. But desire? All women desire a good-looking mate.
And you’d be surprised how many adult women like TWILIGHT.
And cougars are examples of older women who “chase” younger, hot guys.
All the women I know talk about looks. And these are the more conservative and “spiritual” types, so what to speak of the more “shallow” bar-hoppers. I’d imagine that they are even more picky in that department.
Of course, looks aren’t the be-all and end-all, other qualities have to be there as well. But they are a good opener, or something that will get you to look twice at a guy and think twice about being with him.
“So just because a guy is good looking to one woman doesn’t mean he is to another.”
I couldn’t care less what another woman finds good looking. If I see a man who is good looking TO ME, I might approach him. Why wouldn’t I? I’m neither shy nor over-whelmingly self-conscious. Just moderately confident enough to initiate conversation with cute guys. It’s not all that difficult to do.
Demetrius: wrong. Most women wont approach a man they’re into. Most MEN (for that matter) wont approach a woman they find attractive. The women that approach men aren’t your stereotypical “confident” woman. They will also usually have the support of a group of friends helping them out, be nervous as hell, or not be playing with a full deck. (or any of the three)
“Most MEN (for that matter) wont approach a woman they find attractive. “……
Agreed. Most men are really self-conscious and deep down, afraid of women. That’s because they’ve been burned really badly in the past. Or if they haven’t been burned, they lack experience, and that makes them fearful as well.
In regards to men’s looks I think women have more ‘types’ then men do. There are universal standards of beauty for women, but for men there is a lot more varience. A man can have a certain something and not be all that attractive by magazine standards and I’ll be interested. I’m much more attuned to how he carries himself than his looks. My much younger friends do seem to be more conscious of his hotness factors than I am. I hope that’s just a byproduct of wisdom not desperation. (leave me in my delusion k?)
Aoefe, I think it’s a product of changing times. I, and to some extent, you too, grew up in a time when men’s looks weren’t emphasized on TV, in the movies, and in advertising, to the same degree they are now. When I was a teenager, a gym-built man looked strange and unnatural – and that’s how they were portrayed in pop culture, too. Men didn’t wax their chests or legs or armpits then. Men weren’t supposed to care about their clothes. They did fuss a bit over their hair (in the 70s and 80s, young men had carefully blow-dried hair), but that was about all they were encouraged to do. So women tended to find really handsome men a bit suspect, and were more likely to see the attractive points of average-looking men.
Nowadays pretty boys with buff bodies are often portrayed in pop culture as being intelligent and powerful, rather than vain and stupid. That has gone a long way towards making them more acceptable to women.
The problem with men here is that they are so unbelievably passive and complacent, that is spills over into their interactions with people. Feminism has bred generations of passive, lazy, emasculated men to the point that they are turning to things like the PUA movement in attempt to claim back masculinity.
I believe that men’s passivity is a symptom of a larger social disease. We can pontificate all we want, but this is not the root of the problem. We live in a society that encourages us to not work for what we want, including the girl.
GirlyGirl…”We live in a society that encourages us to not work for what we want”…I think a lot of this has to do with the excesses of the “self-esteem movement,” which have created an unrealistic sense of entitlement in many people (see for example this)…I wonder if this stuff has had more of a malign effect on men than on women for some reason.
2 points, Paul’s naaniji: One, you seem to think I was bewailing the influence of pop culture (TV etc.) on women’s standards of male beauty, or on all our lives in general. I wasn’t. I wasn’t complaining, merely observing.
And Two: you’re wrong. (Begging your pardon, ma’am.) Pop culture *has* raised male standards of female beauty, but I don’t think it created them in the first place, nor that it did much to exaggerate the importance men place on women’s looks – a little, perhaps but not that much.
What I meant to say in my previous comment was only that popular culture has cleverly managed to link male handsomeness, indeed male vanity, to masculinity, for both men and women, in a way that I don’t think our culture (North America) ever quite experienced before. The earrings, soul patches, carefully cultivated stubble, gym-worked muscles, and so on that young men sport today were completely unknown to boys when I was in high school and university in the late 70s/early 80s.
My last two girlfriends asked me out. One lasted 7 months, and I’m in month 4 with my current girlfriend. The only thing that ran through my mind was I couldn’t help but wonder if both girls asked me out because I was actually hitting on one of their friends.
It was actually strange, almost like a game for them.
After a while though, I realized that even though that may have had something to do with it initially, they really did like me for me. Bottom line, I think its sexy when a woman goes for what she wants. I never think of her as “easy”. But then again, I’m not a true “gamer”. I actually like to have a girlfriend.
Psychologists have branded this generation as being one of extreme narcissism. It is indeed an entitlement society. So much so, that it is reflected in the government officials we have elected in and the political-economy system we have today. Just take a look at the business of the divorce industry. We have institutionalized entitlements at the expense of property rights for decades now. Psychologists think they are being enlightened, when in reality they are late to the party.
The degradation we see currently in the dating scene was a long time coming. It is not something new or revolutionary. This has happened time and time again with various societies before they ended in collapse. I am not saying there is a causal relationship, merely one of correlation. All you have to do is open the history books.
From what I understand, you delete comments that are about me, link to my blog, or refer to me in anyway (I’ll assume the same will happen with this one).
So I invite any women who are NOT desperate, pathetic, and drooling to become brides and baby machines to read something intellectual instead of this sad excuse for a blog.
There is nothing “Girl Game” at all here. Ugh, God this whole thing is so sad for the obvious reasons: “Men will like us better if we giggle, act dumb, and talk about how much we appreciate men”.
That’s not girl game. That’s being a submissive, unsuccessful doormat. Please don’t call this “Girl-Game” lmao…..any woman with experience would laugh at this considering that the people behind it include an aging woman desperate for babies, an Arab (who clearly doesn’t understand anything except “men-rule” mentality), and some other girl of a random minority group who is somewhat attractive and therefore the “clincher” to make your blog look legit.
Sad. This is a poor interpretation of “Sex in the City” but with more desperation and less intellect.
I believe one of the editors removed one of the links to your entries because they felt it was a compromise of privacy. Otherwise, we have no issue having you comment, someone reference you, or have your blog linked in the comments.
I’m the first to admit this blog is far from intellectual, but that’s not really the aim of our project. It’s a bit “fluff,” and fun, but so what? I have enough intellectual considerations in the “real world.” Meeting a man is far from what one could consider an intellectual enterprise anyway.
Also, I don’t think any of us are desperate. Most of us are currently in a relationship or seeing somebody. I never play dumb, especially to impress a man.
Lady Raine, while I think you’re an intelligent woman, I can’t recall having seen anything I’d call “intellectual” on your blog. Don’t get so fierce, please. The only woman here who has ever been openly critical of you, as far as I know, was Aoefe, and even she was more restrained about the use of personal insult than you, if I remember correctly. The others here have no quarrel with you. Why so spiteful to them? You may have your doubts about the wisdom or good sense of their project, but that doesn’t really justify calling them stupid. They aren’t. Don’t let your experience at Roissy’s blog ruin your manners.
Lady Raine I’ll say it again – I’m not hoping for babies, I have in fact never said I am. It’s an assumption you make based on nothing more than guessing. I personally welcome you to our little girly spot in the world. Don’t puke.
Clio good point regarding the media, hadn’t thought of it that way. I prefer the manly sort – ungroomed (but clean), rugged even… No Ryan Seacrest for me thanks.
In regards to men’s looks I think women have more ‘types’ then men do. There are universal standards of beauty for women, but for men there is a lot more varience.
I disagree. I think there are universal standards of “beauty” (objective attractiveness, whatever) for people, but they mean less to women than they do to men. In other words, looks are a much more important factor in mate choice for men than they are for women. A lot of the time, when a woman talks about how “attractive” her mate is, she’s taking many things other than simply looks into consideration. That doesn’t really make him more aesthetically attractive in her eyes, just more attractive in general.
From what I understand, you delete comments that are about me, link to my blog, or refer to me in anyway (I’ll assume the same will happen with this one).
…who gave you to understand this?
I assume it’s not you who, since you wouldn’t read us — would you? — and I am curious as to how you have been alerted with such alacrity.
The only part of Raine’s blog I like more than openly endorsing vandalism on someone you don’t like are the antisemitic remarks she makes when talking about Roissy in DC. Real classy.
Now, now, gunny, when did I ever say I thought I was better than you? My comment didn’t hint at any sense of moral superiority. Not every critical remark implies that the critic feels morally superior to the object of his criticism.
Lady R. was snide when she first turned up at Roissy’s – not that *she* was religious, mind you – but she got a lot worse than snideness in return. That’s why I said what I did above.
Naa she was more than snide and I believe she did enjoy the superfluous attention.
Did you not notice the comments of hers in reference too not caring about the posts being up in the past.
Plus fronts that she is this ultra strong woman that hates men but can’t compete with an actual free woman. Sells her family to indentured servitude to a house that they can’t afford. Yet ok I can understand somewhat but it was rather dissapointing to see her be just another lying feminist. Says she doesn’t need a man a million times but when she ends up in a bad circumstance starts “dating” again lol
This is an bad advice because a shy man will never approach a woman. I’m reading shyness forums like socialphobiaworld and there are guys there that are 30 years old virgins because they never approached a woman. Furthermore, it’s possible that even an ordinary man will not approach a woman because nowadays, many guys expects women to approach them. Where I live, there was an article in a newspaper a few months ago saying that men here don’t approach women anymore, it’s women that must approach them.
If the dating scene is that bad in these areas, I reiterate the idea that perhaps we should abdicate dating altogether? Does it really work? Well, anyway, I can only voice my skepticism as even in the UK, most working relationships seem to be from people they know rather than formal dating.
Being attracted to a man you don’t know is difficult enough, with so little real information. Having to be the initiator would shut down all attraction. May as well tie him up in a chair and whip him already, because that’s what he is to your female mind: passive. And that’s how attractive it is. It’s self-sabotage.
Boy Game is based on principles that displaying alpha qualities attracts women. (Most women do not go for terminally shy guys. Why should they, really, as a biological principle? When it comes to protecting you or your family, is he going to be ’shy’ about confronting people, including other women?)
Boy Game isn’t exactly applicable to Girl Game. A man doesn’t become more attracted to you as LTR material because you’ve been aggressive with him. The more masculine he is, the more likely it’s going to be a negative on his scale. (The slight exception to this: Unless you are a domme (lite!?) and looking for a male sub.)
(Most women do not go for terminally shy guys. Why should they, really, as a biological principle? When it comes to protecting you or your family, is he going to be ’shy’ about confronting people, including other women?)
Bhetti, there was a guy in a shyness forum a few years ago that was a 50 years old virgin. He was a rancher living in rural Texas, a Republican, member of the NRA, had a whole collection of guns and lots of ammo. Everybody was joking about that in the forum. With all his guns he was perfectly able to defend himself, his ranch and probably the whole town. But anyway what Lilgirl said originally was : “Even if he is a super-shy, super-introverted, super-anti-people person…if he likes you, he’ll ask you out.” I said that’s impossible and you just agree with me.
I don’t know, Enquirer, but I think I’ve met a few examples of the kind of man you mean. Often they’re very macho but shy and awkward too, and the reason they like somewhat less feminine women is that the latter are a) bold enough to approach them; and b) can talk about, or even take part in, the things the macho shy man is interested in, like football or hunting or dam-building or things like that.
These fellows are often excellent men, reliable, courageous, with many practical skills, but they don’t make good companions for city girls who demand a high degree of social proof from their men, and who don’t have many practical skills themselves. They may also have opinions that such women hate: their talk can be mildly racist and “homophobic”. I’ve found with such men that it’s better not to take them at their word about such matters because they often don’t mean it; it’s just a way of talking. In real life, they tend to take a live-and-let-live approach to other people, or at least the best of them do.
My parents both grew up in rural communities and I’ve met a fair number of men of this kind through them – some of them are my relatives.
Slight tangent: In japan some men are giving up on dating altogether. There are so many men that are giving up that businesses are starting to form catering to them. (Not just dating sims.) And between this and other bigger sociological factors, their population is on a steady decline.
What I want to know is, what are the women doing? It seems like women (At least the ones in japan) are more willing to let their biological clocks wind down and die an old spinster than approach a man and take responsibility in a relationship.
Slight tangent: In japan some men are giving up on dating altogether. There are so many men that are giving up that businesses are starting to form catering to them. (Not just dating sims.) And between this and other bigger sociological factors, their population is on a steady decline.
What I want to know is, what are the women doing? It seems like women (At least the ones in japan) are more willing to let their biological clocks wind down and die an old spinster than approach a man and take responsibility in a relationship.
This is what it comes down to. The women here can say all they want if he doesn’t ask you he’s not that into you. All that does is paper over a real problem (that is more advanced in Japan). It doesn’t matter who asks who out as long as what is causing this problem solved (although in the interim it may involve women asking men out if the women don’t want to be alone). Saying “if he doesn’t ask you out, he’s not that into you” is ignoring the problem.
This is why guys like TFH think the GG blog is going nowhere.
Maybe what were seeing in japan is a reaction to overcrowding. someone on spearhead mentioned an experiment with rats called “Population density and social pathology” from the 70% which sates (summarized for the sake of brevity) that as populations become over crowded, things go to shit. So maybe there’s nothing we CAN do.
And on the subject of this blog. I still like reading it because while lacking the the substance of others, it also lacks the hate and vitriol.
Lady Raine, while I think you’re an intelligent woman, I can’t recall having seen anything I’d call “intellectual” on your blog.
Huh….that’s weird. Most of my blog is about Engineering, Technology, Psychology, and Criminal Profiling. Yeah, you’re right you must have spent TONS of time over at my blog reading that kind of drivel. Your statement in itself shows that you have never read my blog at all. So stop your nonsense. It was a snippy attempt at insulting me and nothing more.
I assume it’s not you who, since you wouldn’t read us — would you? — and I am curious as to how you have been alerted with such alacrity.
Sorry I didn’t see this question. It was “Aiswarya”?? Whatever, close enough. As for your whole “we don’t link to blogs that disclosure personal info”. I think we all know that your defense is a big, fat (polite) lie.
I don’t TRY to sound “snide” nor “superior” when I comment somewhere. I am well aware that I come off abrasive in the written word. I am learning quickly that the fact that I smile A LOT in real life must be what buffers that. (I mean because apparently I don’t come off that way face to face). I mostly just come off as sarcastic and cunty, which is pretty close to the truth.
I don’t have any sort of disdain for any of you personally, but my comment was an honest critique were I to be a “passerby” of this blog, didn’t know the “backstory”, and was actually LOOKING for REAL “girl game advice”…..I’d be really pissed that I wasted my time reading some of this.
It’s nothing personal, just an honest critique in my humble opinion.
As for your whole “we don’t link to blogs that disclosure personal info”. I think we all know that your defense is a big, fat (polite) lie.
Did we ever say this? I believe we said: Please do not post the personal information, or links to the personal information, of anyone (other than yourself) who is not explicitly in the public sphere.
And by this, we mean explicitly. As you can see, we have no problems with you linking to your blog, as long as it’s not to that explicit post. Likewise, while we link to Roissy, we do not have a link to any of his posts that are explicitly about you. Honestly, if you hadn’t gotten all up in our grill, we’d probably have no issues with linking to you, either.
As I said before, I don’t have any issues with you. But I do have issues with EVERYONE — EVERYONE ON HERE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU — who has the reading comprehension of a three-year-old. Please, people, learn how to REGISTER what you READ.
Please do not post the personal information, or links to the personal information, of anyone (other than yourself) who is not explicitly in the public sphere.
Um, I didn’t do that. Some other random commentor here did. Way to shoot the messenger.
And by this, we mean explicitly. As you can see, we have no problems with you linking to your blog, as long as it’s not to that explicit post. Likewise, while we link to Roissy, we do not have a link to any of his posts that are explicitly about you. Honestly, if you hadn’t gotten all up in our grill, we’d probably have no issues with linking to you, either.
Once again, you are being REALLY dramatic. I hardly think leaving ONE critical comment on this blog EVER would be considered “all up in your grill”.
You admitted that you were playing mostly to a male audience for right now while you’re getting things geared up, so why are you so pissed that I made (what appears to be) an honest and accurate observation?
I am aware that you did not post the link to your blog. However, you did leave this comment, which I was addressing: As for your whole “we don’t link to blogs that disclosure personal info”. I think we all know that your defense is a big, fat (polite) lie.
I will go out on a limb here and assume that anyone with an IQ over 65 can understand why I would address you about a comment you made.
As for my overdramatic misinterpretation of your first comment, let me highlight the parts that were basically you being a douchebag, since you are apparently completely unversed in the basics of polite communication:
From what I understand, you delete comments that are about me, link to my blog, or refer to me in anyway (I’ll assume the same will happen with this one).
[[This is false, and you are coming into this argument assuming the worst about us, based on the comments of a troll. However, since you were not aware of this, this is forgivable.]]
So I invite any women who are NOT desperate, pathetic, and drooling to become brides and baby machines
[[Here you IMPLY that we are "desperate, pathetic, and drooling to become brides and baby machines".]]
to read something intellectual instead of this sad excuse for a blog.
[[Note: "sad excuse" is a term one uses derisively]]
There is nothing “Girl Game” at all here. Ugh, God this whole thing is so sad for the obvious reasons: “Men will like us better if we giggle, act dumb, and talk about how much we appreciate men”.
[[Here you make it obvious that you've read nothing on our blog and are making assumptions.]]
That’s not girl game. That’s being a submissive, unsuccessful doormat.
[[Here you imply that we are "submissive, unsuccessful doormats"
Please don’t call this “Girl-Game” lmao…..any woman with experience would laugh at this considering that the people behind it include an aging woman desperate for babies, an Arab (who clearly doesn’t understand anything except “men-rule” mentality), and some other girl of a random minority group who is somewhat attractive and therefore the “clincher” to make your blog look legit.
[[Here you insult Aoefe by calling her an "aging woman desperate for babies", and you insult Bhetti by claiming she "clearly doesn't understand anything except 'man-rule' mentality". But apparently you think I'm hot. Thanks.]]
Sad. This is a poor interpretation of “Sex in the City” but with more desperation and less intellect.
[[Here you call us desperate and stupid. Come on, woman.]]
Actually, Lil Girl….that reads as exactly what I said it was: a critical opinion of the blog. Did I say “they’re all a bunch of stupid bitches”???
Let me try putting this a different way…..
Anyone who read the advice you have thus far offered, would assume that you were exactly what I referred to: a bad version of Sex and the City. And about as “realistic”.
Whether you as individuals are or are not any of those things. That would be the immediate impression to MOST readers that aren’t familiar with you already. Whether male or female….if they were relatively intelligent they’d question as to whether this blog is meant to be serious or in jest of “girl game”.
What do you want me to tell you? You can’t call it “Girl Game” and then be pissed when people critique you for posting what (thus far) is the exact OPPOSITE of Girl Game.
This would be the type of imaginary “Girl Game” that you would read about in Maxim. Written by males….and for males.
Again, it was a critical comment! So what? It’s not like I went around to every post and personally attacked any of you, so just settle down and stop being so dramatic about it.
Except you did. Like I said, we don’t have any problem with you not liking the blog (really, it’s more because we don’t care about you, but still), we do have a problem with you personally attacking people for no reason.
Would you really say that calling people stupid and desperate is not a personal attack?
Actually, I don’t have a problem with it…but the other girls do.
P.S. I’ve written for Maxim, and I’d say about 75% of the staff is female.
P.P.S. I maintain what I said before: I have no issues with you. I even thought you were relatively intelligent, but after this exchange (and your dismal reading comprehension), I’m beginning to think otherwise. Perhaps you should stop while you’re ahead, and you still have at least a modicum of respect in my mind.
Except you did. Like I said, we don’t have any problem with you not liking the blog (really, it’s more because we don’t care about you, but still), we do have a problem with you personally attacking people for no reason.
Once again, LilGirl: I made ONE comment EVER on your blog and you and Sofia BOTH came to MY blog all up in arms and made a big deal over my “critical comment”. I did not “personally attack” any of you at any point in my comment here. Nor did I “attack” you when you came to my blog to interrogate me about it.
Clearly you DO have a “problem with me not liking this blog” because you made such a huge fucking deal out of NADA. Good for you, ladies.
Would you really say that calling people stupid and desperate is not a personal attack?
Actually, I don’t have a problem with it…but the other girls do.
Um, it might be critical and even harsh, but it’s also not far from the truth for some of the contributors. Am I supposed to feel sorry for stating my honest opinion?
Second, who cares what the other girls have a problem with. I’m sure eventually they’ll come charging over to my blog like you did and start a girly slap-fight over it or they’ll get over it and move on with their day.
How did either me or LILGRL come to your blog “up in arms”? We did a systematic deconstruction of whatever myths you had come to consensus upon with DADT. It was a totally reasonable series of comments, unlike you coming here and pissing all over our goddamned house.
This isn’t directed at LR particularly, but to commenters in general:
PLEASE LEARN HOW TO BE FUNCTIONALLY LITERATE. PRETTY SOON WE WILL START SCREENING READING COMPREHENSION FOR Y’ALL. AND BEFORE SOMEONE CALLS ME OUT ON THE COLLOQUIAL USE OF Y’ALL, GET A SENSE OF APPROPRIATE HUMOUR.
And, in regards to the discussion at hand: LILGRL is right. Fin.
Calling someone desperate and stupid isn’t a personal attack? So if I called you an egotistical racist, you wouldn’t be offended? (and a pretty ugly one at that.)
. Most of my blog is about Engineering, Technology, Psychology, and Criminal Profiling.
This isn’t intellectual by standards of discerning academics. Also, you write about it in a very popularized, simplistic way intended for young children. It’s also boring and uninsightful. What we write about may subjectively fall under these categories, but we make no pretensions – or assertions – to the contrary.
Nobody reads anything genuinely intellectual on the internet unless they’re academic journals that are available online, and even then, most of them aren’t reputable. If you really are so focused on self-betterment through knowledge, read Plato. You’re going to have some rebuttal in the vein of, “I have read Plato!” but no, it really isn’t evident at all through anything you say. You’re the kind of person who reads manifest content that seems “complicated” and passes it off as legitimately academic. It isn’t.
And yes, as a peremptory counter-argument against anyone calling me a snob with no real world experience, I am merely arguing within the framework LR presented to me. So shove it.
If LILGRL or I have ever been interpreted as “arguing” with anyone on the blog, in nine out of ten cases it’s really just explaining in increasingly simplistic terms what our opponent fails to grasp through the fault of their own poor reading comprehension. SRSLY.
If I seem like I’m being a hard-ass, well, I guess it’s too much to expect reasoned discussion. And no, I’m not seeking anything SPR-SMRT because the context of the blog isn’t conducive to that. I’m just not looking to read anything SPR-DMB. There’s a huge, huge distinction.
Unfortunately, your thinly (did I say thinly? I meant, not at all) veiled attempts to insult me are kind of stupid, as I’ve come to such “narcissistic” conclusions based on comments that LR has left on my blog in times past.
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I am not in a good mood right now, people. I’m tempted to just ban the lot of you.
I’d also like to add that LILGRL is unfairly attacked by people because she’s attractive and doesn’t pretend think she’s hideous. I’m pretty sure she has a real-life gauge of how she looks and her validation doesn’t come um, entirely from the internet. The only people that accuse her of being a narcissistic ho or whatever have no gauge of sarcasm or humour.
And yes, as another peremptory counter-argument, I am so, so in lesbo-love with LILGRL. That must be it. And not a perfectly reasonable human being. Also I am fat, hideous and 90 years old.
So ya do see why I was a little harsh on clio when she was trying to act like rain didn’t start the whole process that happened and was kissing some ass lol
You ladies do have a good blog here don’t let it get ya down.
Maybe what were seeing in japan is a reaction to overcrowding. someone on spearhead mentioned an experiment with rats called “Population density and social pathology” from the 70% which sates (summarized for the sake of brevity) that as populations become over crowded, things go to shit. So maybe there’s nothing we CAN do.
How do you know Japan is “overcrowded”? What is the objective definition of overcrowding? Japan isn’t overcrowded because half the country is empty. There are massive areas of land the Japanese government is trying to give away but can’t. The Japanese government or some private entity could build a city or two in one of these places solving any overcrowding problems (if they exist). I don’t see how overcrowding can be what is causing all this weirdness in Japan since Japanese could move to different parts of their country easily.
@promale anti fem tech- I don’t know about the whole of Japan but I recall reading about Tokoyo having an overcrowding problem.
P.S. How can you go from being clio to my tupac one week into a guy with two girlfriends a few weeks later. Your purity was/is something that some women really liked. At least here in the e-world anyway.
I don’t know about the whole of Japan but I recall reading about Tokoyo having an overcrowding problem.
That’s true, but it can’t be responsible for for the male-female problems in Japan. If Tokyo is overcrowded then the solution is easy, move to a different part of Japan. The Japanese government is constantly building roads and rails to nowhere. Instead of making it nowhere put a city there. Surrounding Tokyo is a bunch of farmland that should be developed, but government policy prevents that because they want a “farm policy” in Tokyo prefecture.
I have been to Japan. It doesn’t look like an Asian version of Soylent Green. There is plenty of space and large swaths (i.e. 50%) of the country are empty or almost empty. If overcrowding was a real problem several things could be done immediately.
P.S. How can you go from being clio to my tupac one week into a guy with two girlfriends a few weeks later. Your purity was/is something that some women really liked. At least here in the e-world anyway.
Not this again. Ugh. I wasn’t pure before I lost my virginity. I had looked at enough porn that there is no way I could be pure. No women IRL liked my “purity” and thats where it counts. In other words, it didn’t produce anything real results.
BTW I broke up with my two girlfriends. I’m taking a break from the whole thing until after Valentine’s Day.
There is nothing “Girl Game” at all here. Ugh, God this whole thing is so sad for the obvious reasons: “Men will like us better if we giggle, act dumb, and talk about how much we appreciate men”.
That’s not girl game. That’s being a submissive doormat
hey – this just happens to be MY TYPE.
add a pound of makeup
and some slutty clothes
and I just may settle for her – provided she keeps making 2 (gourmet) home-cooked meals per day.
As for the ladies here that are apparently STILL sobbing into their pillows about my ONE very valid critique…..suck it up, ladies.
Jesus, I probably have 3 or 4 DEATH THREATS on my blog in the comments section and you girls freak out and start an ovary-flinging blog-war over my assessment of your (fake) GirlGame blog? If you can’t take the heat…….
….well you know.
Furthermore, it’s clear that LilGirl and Sofia are speaking FOR the other ladies here who know they are old, over 40, and desperate (and are the ones who are pissed that I pointed it out).
Second, Sofia you are blabbing on and on about how “stupid and vapid” my own blog is but I never claimed it be anything other than….well….a blog.
Yes, you’re right I should cover the subjects of the highest intellectual levels like “Dating” and “Girl-Stuff”. God, you have really put all the genius’s to shame with this gem, ladies.
As for the rest of this mess:
Sofia you can cry all day and LilGirl can pretend to be special as much as she wants to as well, but it doesn’t change the fact that I am guilty of this:
Posting ONE critical comment on your blog. Ever.
Sofia and LilGirl then came to my blog and fought with the alleged “troll” DADT, then attacked ME, then came back HERE and went ON and on and on about my ONE fucking comment.
Clearly, you care A LOT what one person thinks. Clearly, you cannot HANDLE having an “open comments” policy because you have your panties in a bunch over a comment I made that is both truthful and OBVIOUS to anyone that has been unfortunate enough to read here.
Sofia……I wouldn’t bother instructing other commenters on what to do/not do. I really doubt you’ll have to worry about having any of those.
Furthermore you ladies saying “Please don’t comment if you cannot comprehend what we post” is the same as saying “You’re just not SMART enough to GET the joke!!!”
Translation: The joke sucked and that’s why no one got it.
Same goes for your “GirlGame” blog.
You admitted that you play to the male audience and assume everyone “knows” that this isn’t the “real stuff” or real advice.
Sooooo. What is it? Exactly what I said it is. A bunch of women who aren’t interesting enough to attract readers (namely men) to their own blogs and figure if they all herd together much like fat girls at the club do when they’re dancing…..maybe you’ll have a chance of someone finding you interesting.
Nope, still nothing.
And now I shall go back to pretending this awful mess of a blog doesn’t exist and stop giving you the freebie blog hits. I’m not a walking charity, you know……..
As for the ladies here that are apparently STILL sobbing into their pillows about my ONE very valid critique…..suck it up, ladies.
No, we deconstructed your lies and you interpreted this as whining because you don’t want to be exposed for your sensationalist attitude, and unprovoked pissing on our blog. Yes, in one comment.
Second, Sofia you are blabbing on and on about how “stupid and vapid” my own blog is but I never claimed it be anything other than….well….a blog.
Yes, you’re right I should cover the subjects of the highest intellectual levels like “Dating” and “Girl-Stuff”. God, you have really put all the genius’s to shame with this gem, ladies.
Most of my blog is about Engineering, Technology, Psychology, and Criminal Profiling.
This isn’t intellectual by standards of discerning academics. Also, you write about it in a very popularized, simplistic way intended for young children. It’s also boring and uninsightful. What we write about may subjectively fall under these categories, but we make no pretensions – or assertions – to the contrary.
Read. You are dumb. If you don’t understand something, it’s because you are dumb. The example you gave about a joke isn’t even analogous, you dumb, dumb person.
You’re 30 years old, arguing with a 20 year old girl on a blog written by 20 year olds, and you still fail at reading comprehension. Wow. I’d also like to say you’ve legitimately cited articles on some of your entries written by us through other mediums, then botched the interpretation, and claimed you’re intellectual. That is all.
*YUP. Bunch of successful, grounded, and intelligent women you see here. Note the idiocy of the last comment by Sofia where she just sputters the same thing over and over again. Maybe if she keeps TELLING me that I’m stupid, it’ll actually make it true!! That’s probably how LilGirl convinced herself that she was “intelligent” to start with.*
I have seen blogs written by women on the topic of dating, romance, marriage, men, etc….. and I hate to say it Ladies….but most of you that blog about/give advice regarding dating are:
1. Lying
2. Projecting
3. Psychologically Weak
Woaaaah, what says you, Lady Raine???? Yes, Ladies….I’m talking to a large majority of you when I say this, but I have yet to come across even ONE blog written by a female (on the subject of “girl game”) that isn’t one big, fat, low self-esteem-induced trainwreck with a capital “T”.
Women like to lie to men. We do it often. I know it’s cliche to say this, but women really DO know when men are gaming us. I realize there’s some dumb women out there who really are “clueless”, but those women are few and far between. Most of us are secretly like a cross between Hannibal Lecter and Houdini.
Attracting a man by being “a bitch” (ie: playing hard to get) has existed since the beginning of time. Sadly, some women have taken that to mean “suck men dry and make themselves victims because it’s easier than putting in the work” while others have taken it to mean “psychologically manipulate him for life”. Ladies, we are guilty as charged. And the advice we are giving other women is most often intentionally BAD.
People sort of use the phrase “playing hard to get” loosely now, but it’s more important in the world of women than any of us care to admit.
A lifetime virgin saving herself for marriage is essentially “playing hard to get” by making sure that any man who wants her is going to have to rise above the rest.
A ballbusting Feminist who patronizes and shames a man for sport is essentially “playing hard to get” in the end because she is daring and DEFYING any man to tame her.
My point is that I don’t care WHAT kind of woman you are, you are still employing this method one way or the other and blowing sunshine up anyone’s ass about this is really rather pointless and dishonest.
So, if you were to go read the (apparently) “new” GirlGame blog (that I refuse to link due to it’s awful uselessness), you would be told that if a man “doesn’t approach you first, he’s just not that into you”. Oh, god and holy fuck!!!!! How THIS be the advice that a small group of (supposedly) actively dating women are offering?
Those men are playing (what they think) is a new version of “hard to get”. It’s called “Game” you dumb bitches. It’s the obvious reverse of exactly what women do when we avoid eye contact intentionally when a man (that we like) is trying to catch our attention.
A woman assuming a guy isn’t “that into you” because he didn’t immediately whip his dick out and fall at your feet is a retarded assumption on the part of ANY woman. He’s likely to be either:
1. A guy who actively studies game
OR
2. A guy who is naturally confident and therefore a “catch”
If a man does not approach you first, it’s true he MIGHT not be into you….but it’s also a sign that he could be a really confident guy that doesn’t feel the need to spend his nights approaching women and skulking around looking for a date. Essentially this would be your ideal man (because a naturally confident man doesn’t usually need to “prove himself” by acting like a dick, be promiscuous to show he’s “manly”, disrespect you….etc.) and had you taken the advice of a blog like “GIRLGAME”…….
……You’d have missed your opportunity to snare the only guy that ISN’T a desperate slimeball at the bar.
The other option is that he is attempting “reverse hard to get” or “Game” Theory and hopes to lure you into his trap by doing the exact opposite of what the other dudes in the room are doing. If he’s a “false catch”, you will be able to identify him rather quickly if you employ normal criminal-profiling and psychology-related basics.
1. Does he touch his face? Hold his beer glass when he’s not drinking it? Does he use the full form of words like “don’t” and “can’t” instead of contractions in a conversation? Cross his arms?
Okay…..if yes, then he’s LIKELY to be pretending to be someone he’s not or acting out a “false catch” persona. You can figure most of that out before you ever even approach him or speak to him. Become the predator and SURVEY the situation as a profiler would do when looking for a criminal in a crowded bar.
This is how you “date” without wasting your time with assholes and gamers. A naturally confident man won’t be looking around very much (at random passerby). He isn’t interested. A “gamer” or false-catch will be surveying the scene (much like a predator) because he’s naturally uncomfortable in the role he’s playing. He will be too friendly to the bartender, tip too much, and smile at strange times. He will likely be the type who makes eye contact with every person he speaks to. (ie: the “too-intense” guy)
Again….you can get most of that just from watching, calculating, and paying attention to the details instead of the overall picture. This is how women most often fall victim to the more intelligent of sleazy men. They mimic a naturally confident man quite nicely on the surface. But when you survey them like a robot’s laser-eye and size up the measurements……they just don’t fit.
So now you know how to weed out the “harder to weed” douchebags, gamers, players, and other con-artist types without ever wasting your breath speaking to them, having a drink with them, or getting too close to them.
Now what? Okay…..eventually you spot the naturally confident “catch” you were looking for. You’ve assessed him visually in all the above mentioned ways and determined he passes the surface tests. How do you know whether or not to approach him at all (in the rare case that he really isn’t interested)? How to tell the difference?
Employ the same profiling tactics. Blank out words, blank out the clothes, blank out the hair/appearance. If he makes eye contact with you at all….even for a few seconds you should be able to tell whether he’s into you or not. (So as not to waste your time approaching him).
It is natural to both males and females to “open up” the eye area as much as possible when attracted to another person. This means tilting back the head to make better eye contact, raised eyebrows, an open-eyed stare….etc. Humans cannot help but to do this because it’a an unconscious reaction when the many chemicals and hormones start swirling around in the human brain.
The length of the stare/eye contact is not important. If you catch this raised eyebrow look, he’s attracted to you and would enjoy you approaching him most likely (unless you are a horrible warpig and he’s out of your league….we have to be realistic here.)
The reason I’m stressing so much importance on “surveying and assessing” men before approaching them or RECEIVING their approach is because these things are done from a “safe zone”. Meaning you haven’t talked to him, gotten close to him, had physical contact (hand brushing, accidentally leaning into…etc.) and YOUR MIND IS STILL OBJECTIVE.
Whether male or female, the moment you are face to face with someone you may have interest in….your hormones, brain chemicals, and sense of “logic” become blurred. Possibly by an engaging conversation, a nice cologne, an intimate touch of the hand….whatever the case, as humans we are victims of our own natural (chemical) reaction to the close proximity of a possible future mate.
Essentially that is where “head over heels” and “infatuation” and “love at first sight” come from. The logic you had when looking upon the person from afar is all but GONE the moment you are directly “engaged” with the person whether conversationally, physically, or emotionally. All humans lose their logical senses when it comes to the opposite sex, we all know this is fact. And most of that comes from hormones and chemicals that are released in every human being on earth.
The very HEART of real Girl Game is being totally aware of that, addressing it, and using the “safe zone” rule to weed out sleazebags and players in advance before they suck you in with “sensory experiences”.
Women have a distinct ability to “idealize” a man once she has spent time with him….but not enough time to let those chemicals and hormones wear off and essentially end up with some asshole who she can’t stand within 2 months of dating.
Ladies, stop wasting your time. Whether you are all for “approaching him first” or whether you are the opposite and ONLY want to “be the approachee” you should use these simple psychological methods to weed out the “false catches” and not have your time wasted by one of these Game-Theory ass-clowns.
Thinking a man “isn’t into you” just because he didn’t approach you is idiotic, one-dimensional, and goes against the very tactics that women themselves have employed (against men) since the beginning of time!!
I have to assume that these “Girl Game” bloggers are very dishonest in what is in an average woman’s mind about dating….and also about what “really works” on women or for women…..
These women clearly don’t have any sort of REAL WORLD understanding of men otherwise they wouldn’t be giving other women such “Grade F” awful advice.
Either that, or maybe they’re just trying to eliminate the competition…..women are evil, my friends.
I think we are all pretty familiar with the great mystery of the pyramids and how they were built. We all learned a little bit about it school…..we all have seen the pictures of “slaves” dragging gigantic blocks up to the top….(and we all know that the “slave” theory itself was a myth) Most of the workers on the Great Pyramids were well-paid “middle class” workers.
This is what we all picture....slaves dragging blocks up a big ramp. Well apparently that barely scratches the surface of the actual Construction....
…..We won’t even touch on the mystery behind how the Ancient Egyptians were able to pinpoint the points on the Pyramid…..to certain stars in the sky and various constellations as well. The measurements themselves tell us that it would have been impossible for the Egyptians to be able to “guesstimate” THAT well. I don’t care what anyone says, that particular mystery can never be explained (which is probably why some people still believe that only Aliens could have conceptualized the Pyramids.)
As for the Construction, that is a mystery that appears to be slowly unraveling. I have always been a HUGE fan of Egyptology and study it quite a bit. I have statues, artistic reproductions, Canopic Jars, and even have a great copy of the famous “The Egyptian Book of the Dead”. (That took me years to get a good “original” btw)…..and yet I’ve never posted anything about Egyptology. I guess maybe because I’m neither an Egyptologist nor an Archaeologist. But then again….neither is this guy:
Jean Pierre Houdin- Architect: The man to finally come up with an explanation?
Jean Pierre Houdin is a French Architect who’s father began studying a newer alternative on a very old theory (the Pyramids and their construction). Jean essentially stopped everything in his life to focus on JUST solving the mystery of the pyramids. In my opinion, it only makes sense for an Architect to study the work of another Architect to figure out what was in his head.
Houdin focuses on the “internal ramp” theory and explains why the old theories just don’t hold water. Most of us grew up on the sketchy theory that a bunch of slaves literally dragged each and every block up a giant slope and then our minds go blank and the rest is a big mystery…..
This is an aerial view of what the internal ramp looked like
Thanks to the theory on the “internal ramp” we have an actual END to that story. There is an excellent video that describes and shows in detail exactly WHY the original external ramp theory doesn’t fit, but to simplify….the degree slope of the external ramp would have required the ramp to span out FARRRRR into the desert into areas of landscape that would not have been “suitable” for building ramps (tombs, rocks, uneven land, etc.)
This is the progression and use of the "External Ramp" during construction
Basically to simplify Jean’s theory overall, the Egyptians used the external ramp only to build the base of the pyramid. To make the ramp large and long enough to build the entire pyramid that way, they would have spend MORE TIME and MONEY on the ramp, then on the Pyramid itself. So obviously that makes no sense to even the simplest of minds….let alone a guy like Jean Pierre or the original builder, Hemienu (Khufu’s brother). So Jean Pierre came up with the internal ramp theory and has even found evidence to back it up. I’ll add the technical stuff in a minute here, but I want to mention that Jean also casually solved the myth of the “Grand Gallery” inside the Pyramid itself (it’s a long and slender Hallway that connects the two burial chambers of Khufu and his Queen and seemed to serve no purpose, whether superficial or structurally).
The "Grand Gallery" inside the Pyramid
Here is an internal view so you better understand the layout and where "The Gallery" is located
The Grand Gallery was always sort of disregarded as some weird addition that never worked out as to it’s function and purpose. Now we see that the Gallery is probably an important link to Jean Pierre’s Theory. There is evidence of an internal “pulley” system similar to what you might picture in those Ancient times. The Grand Gallery has precise notches in the walls and even black “grease marks” in all the appropriate places to mark an Ancient “pulley system” that helped them to lift the giant granite beams that are located above Khufu’s Burial Chamber. This is a part of the construction most people don’t think of. Not only is the outside and general structure of the pyramid a mystery…..but there are granite support beams located at the very core of the pyramid that were even harder to move than the big exterior blocks were. It’s more than a little bit “possible” that those giant granite beams were moved by the pulley system located in The Gallery. No one had even touched on THAT part of the mystery, and yet Jean Pierre sort of answered that question “by accident”. It really is beyond amazing when you watch this theory in motion. Even our modern minds struggled to conceptualize what the Ancient Egyptians not only “saw” but DID at the very beginning of our modern Civilizations. It’s really so amazing in so many ways.
Here’s some “facts” and figures by Bob Brier on Jean Pierre Houdin’s theory:
“Of the seven wonders of the ancient world, only the Great Pyramid of Giza remains. An estimated 2 million stone blocks weighing an average of 2.5 tons went into its construction. When completed, the 481-foot-tall pyramid was the world’s tallest structure, a record it held for more than 3,800 years, when England’s Lincoln Cathedral surpassed it by a mere 44 feet.
We know who built the Great Pyramid: the pharaoh Khufu, who ruled Egypt about 2547-2524 B.C. And we know who supervised its construction: Khufu’s brother, Hemienu. The pharaoh’s right-hand man, Hemienu was “overseer of all construction projects of the king” and his tomb is one of the largest in a cemetery adjacent to the pyramid.
What we don’t know is exactly how it was built, a question that has been debated for millennia. The earliest recorded theory was put forward by the Greek historian Herodotus, who visited Egypt around 450 B.C., when the pyramid was already 2,000 years old. He mentions “machines” used to raise the blocks and this is usually taken to mean cranes. Three hundred years later, Diodorus of Sicily wrote, “The construction was effected by mounds” (ramps). Today we have the “space alien” theory–those primitive Egyptians never could have built such a fabulous structure by themselves; extraterrestrials must have helped them.
Modern scholars have favored these two original theories, but deep in their hearts, they know that neither one is correct. A radical new one, however, may provide the solution. If correct, it would demonstrate a level of planning by Egyptian architects and engineers far greater than anything ever imagined before.
The External Ramp and Crane Theories
The first theory is that a ramp was built on one side of the pyramid and as the pyramid grew, the ramp was raised so that throughout the construction, blocks could be moved right up to the top. If the ramp were too steep, the men hauling the blocks would not be able to drag them up. An 8-percent slope is about the maximum possible, and this is the problem with the single ramp theory. With such a gentle incline, the ramp would have to be approximately one mile long to reach the top of the pyramid. But there is neither room for such a long ramp on the Giza Plateau, nor evidence of such a massive construction. Also, a mile-long ramp would have had as great a volume as the pyramid itself, virtually doubling the man-hours needed to build the pyramid. Because the straight ramp theory just doesn’t work, several pyramid experts have opted for a modified ramp theory.
This approach suggests that the ramp corkscrewed up the outside of the pyramid, much the way a mountain road spirals upward. The corkscrew ramp does away with the need for a massive mile-long one and explains why no remains of such a ramp have been found, but there is a flaw with this version of the theory. With a ramp corkscrewing up the outside of the pyramid, the corners couldn’t be completed until the final stage of construction. But careful measurements of the angles at the corners would have been needed frequently to assure that the corners would meet to create a point at the top. Dieter Arnold, a renowned pyramid expert at The Metropolitan Museum of Art, comments in his definitive work, Building in Egypt: “During the whole construction period, the pyramid trunk would have been completely buried under the ramps. The surveyors could therefore not have used the four corners, edges, and foot line of the pyramid for their calculations.” Thus the modified ramp theory also has a serious problem.
The second theory centers on Herodotus’s machines. Until recently Egyptian farmers used a wooden, cranelike device called a shadouf to raise water from the Nile for irrigation. This device can be seen in ancient tomb paintings, so we know it was available to the pyramid builders. The idea is that hundreds of these cranes at various levels on the pyramid were used to lift the blocks. One problem with this theory is that it would involve a tremendous amount of timber and Egypt simply didn’t have forests to provide the wood. Importing so much lumber would have been impractical. Large timbers for shipbuilding were imported from Lebanon, but this was a very expensive enterprise.
Perhaps an even more fatal flaw to the crane theory is that there is nowhere to place all these cranes. The pyramid blocks tend to decrease in size higher up the Great Pyramid. I climbed it dozens of times in the 1970s and ’80s, when it was permitted, and toward the top, the blocks sometimes provide only 18 inches of standing room, certainly not enough space for cranes large enough to lift heavy blocks of stone. The crane theory can’t explain how the blocks of the Great Pyramid were raised. So how was it done?
Jean Pierre Houdin's "Internal Ramp"
The Internal Ramp Theory
A radical new idea has recently been presented by Jean-Pierre Houdin, a French architect who has devoted the last seven years of his life to making detailed computer models of the Great Pyramid. Using start-of-the-art 3-D software developed by Dassault Systemes, combined with an initial suggestion of Henri Houdin, his engineer father, the architect has concluded that a ramp was indeed used to raise the blocks to the top, and that the ramp still exists–inside the pyramid!
The theory suggests that for the bottom third of the pyramid, the blocks were hauled up a straight, external ramp. This ramp was far shorter than the one needed to reach the top, and was made of limestone blocks, slightly smaller than those used to build the bottom third of the pyramid. As the bottom of the pyramid was being built via the external ramp, a second ramp was being built, inside the pyramid, on which the blocks for the top two-thirds of the pyramid would be hauled. The internal ramp, according to Houdin, begins at the bottom, is about 6 feet wide, and has a grade of approximately 7 percent. This ramp was put into use after the lower third of the pyramid was completed and the external ramp had served its purpose.
The design of the internal ramp was partially determined by the design of the interior of the pyramid. Hemienu knew all about the problems encountered by Pharaoh Sneferu, his and Khufu’s father. Sneferu had considerable difficulty building a suitable pyramid for his burial, and ended up having to construct three at sites south of Giza! The first, at Meidum, may have had structural problems and was never used. His second, at Dashur–known as the Bent Pyramid because the slope of its sides changes midway up–developed cracks in the walls of its burial chamber. Huge cedar logs from Lebanon had to be wedged between the walls to keep the pyramid from collapsing inward, but it too was abandoned. There must have been a mad scramble to complete Sneferu’s third and successful pyramid, the distinctively colored Red Pyramid at Dashur, before the aging ruler died.
From the beginning, Hemienu planned three burial chambers to ensure that whenever Khufu died, a burial place would be ready. One was carved out of the bedrock beneath the pyramid at the beginning of its construction. In case the pharaoh had died early, this would have been his tomb. When, after about five years, Khufu was still alive and well, the unfinished underground burial chamber was abandoned and the second burial chamber, commonly called the Queen’s Chamber, was begun. Some time around the fifteenth year of construction Khufu was still healthy and this chamber was abandoned unfinished and the last burial chamber, the King’s Chamber, was built higher up–in the center of the pyramid. (To this day, Khufu’s sarcophagus remains inside the King’s Chamber, so early explorers of the pyramid incorrectly assumed that the second chamber had been for his queen.)
Huge granite and limestone blocks were needed for the roof beams and rafters of the Queen’s and King’s Chambers. Some of these beams weigh more than 60 tons and are far too large to have been brought up through the internal ramp. Thus the external ramp had to remain in use until the large blocks were hauled up. Once that was done, the external ramp was dismantled and its blocks were led up the pyramid via the internal ramp to build the top two-thirds of the pyramid. Perhaps most blocks in this portion of the pyramid are smaller than those at the bottom third because they had to move up the narrow internal ramp.
There were several considerations that went into designing the internal ramp. First, it had to be fashioned very precisely so that it didn’t hit the chambers or the internal passageways that connect them. Second, men hauling heavy blocks of stones up a narrow ramp can’t easily turn a 90-degree corner; they need a place ahead of the block to stand and pull. The internal ramp had to provide a means of turning its corners so, Houdin suggests, the ramp had openings there where a simple crane could be used to turn the blocks.
There are plenty of theories about how the Great Pyramid could have been built that lack evidence. Is the internal ramp theory any different? Is there any evidence to support it? Yes.
A bit of evidence appears to be one of the ramp’s corner notches used for turning blocks. It is two-thirds of the way up the northeast corner–precisely at a point where Houdin predicted there would be one. Furthermore, in 1986 a member of a French team that was surveying the pyramid reported seeing a desert fox enter it through a hole next to the notch, suggesting that there is an open area close to it, perhaps the ramp. It seems improbable that the fox climbed more than halfway up the pyramid. More likely there is some undetected crevice toward the bottom where the fox entered the ramp and then made its way up the ramp and exited near the notch. It would be interesting to attach a telemetric device to a fox and send him into the hole to monitor his movements! The notch is suggestive, but there is another bit of evidence supplied by the French mentioned earlier that is far more compelling.
These are what the "notches" used to turn the blocks would have looked like back then.
When the French team surveyed the Great Pyramid, they used microgravimetry, a technique that enabled them to measure the density of different sections of the pyramid, thus detecting hidden chambers. The French team concluded that there were no large hidden chambers inside it. If there was a ramp inside the pyramid, shouldn’t the French have detected it? In 2000, Henri Houdin was presenting this theory at a scientific conference where one of the members of the 1986 French team was present. He mentioned to Houdin that their computer analysis of the pyramid did yield one curious image, something they couldn’t interpret and therefore ignored. That image showed exactly what Jean-Pierre Houdin’s theory had predicted–a ramp spiraling up through the pyramid.
Far from being just another theory, the internal ramp has considerable evidence behind it. A team headed by Jean-Pierre Houdin and Rainer Stadlemann, former director of the German Archaeological Institute in Cairo and one of the greatest authorities on pyramids, has submitted an application to survey the Great Pyramid in a nondestructive way to see if the theory can be confirmed. They are hopeful that the Supreme Council of Antiquities will grant permission for a survey. (Several methods could be used, including powerful microgravimetry, high-resolution infrared photography, or even sonar.) If so, sometime this year we may finally know how Khufu’s monumental tomb was built. One day, if it is indeed there, we might just be able to remove a few blocks from the exterior of the pyramid and walk up the mile-long ramp Hemienu left hidden within the Great Pyramid.”
Here is the very awesome and detailed video of the evidence, the new theory, the myths, and of course the technical detail. I have provided all parts (1-5) to these videos and if you are interested in this theory at all, I’d highly suggest sitting down and watching them in their entirety (I saw this when it was originally on t.v. and I think it was a one-hour show….it was very good though):
I know that no one really cares about things that other people’s kids do, but as I told you all before, it’s amazing that I live in a weird-perfect town where they have petting zoos and parades a million times per year and of course shut the streets down for SantaLand last weekend too.
Of course our kids went to do this together (My niece, my 3 nephews, and my son since they all live with me) and did the usual kid thing and all waited in line for Santa’s Lap and (surprisingly) free photos that they mail out to the parents. Well we didn’t get the free photos yet, but much to our surprise my son and my nephew are in the newspaper sitting on Santa’s Lap
The referred to them as “Brothers Nikolas and Caeden Schwartz” even though they are not brothers, but cousins…..either way our two little boys feel like rock stars now and are taking copies of the paper into school.
Ahhh, proud “awww my kid is so cute” moments like these!!! Here’s the photo and newspaper link: Town & Country
This is our front sun-porch....thank goodness for staple guns and 4 little boys who can climb well!
This is meant to lighten things up a bit around here. I typically hate the holidays and the bullshit that goes along with them. I try to NOT be a Grinch, but I usually am once I’m allowed to do so (by putting in my time doing the stuff parents are supposed to do to make Christmas “festive”).
Lady Raine's Christmas tree (Ugh, finally done)
Anyway, I procrastinated about putting up the tree, the decorations, and haven’t even started shopping yet….(and remember I have 5 children in the house to buy for!)
We couldn’t even FIND our tree until yesterday and then, of course, in the spirit of the holidays…..none of the Christmas lights worked either so we had our yearly “run like assholes to the store and buy over-priced lighting and decor”…….
Our Boys decorating the tree.....
However, even I……The Grinch-like Lady Raine had a moment of “Christmas Spirit” when just as our little boys got ready to decorate the tree yesterday…..we had our very first snow of the year here in good old PA. It’s not really a thrill (because our area isn’t far from the Poconos, so it’s kinda like Christmas Day all winter long around here) but the silence before a snowstorm coupled with our kids being delighted at throwing the decorations on the tree, actually made me feel “Christmasy” for a brief period in time this year.
I took this on my cell out front of our house of our first real snow this year!
Even the coldest of hearts (like mine) can still feel things every now and then…..
Lady Raine (Okay, okay....it's The Grinch)
Admittedly, it was fun using the staple gun to haphazardly cover the outside with lights and get the tree done and ready to go…..and the falling snow made it all the more delightful.
I think we all know it's a Christmas Tree by now.....
As parents/adults we forget that non of the gifts matter…..not even the “religious” attachments really matter that much. All that really matters is when you see the kids with looks on their faces that you normally only see in “touching Christmas films” standing right in front of you…..looking like that just because you gave them a little “magic” to dream of.
The older boys made it take way longer than necessary!
Isn’t it a shame, that we as adults lose all of that as we grow older???
Yes, yes….it’s true. Lady Raine DOES have a soul and DEFINITELY a soft-spot for loved ones, children, and close family. Did my heart “grow three sizes that day”??? Nah, I don’t think so……but at least I know I’m still a little bit human, eh?
In all seriousness, though it’s hard to be a Grinch around where I live. My town shuts down the “main” streets for any parade/festivity they can think of. Today the kids are at a Parade of “Horse-Drawn Carriages” and Animals dressed in Christmas finery. Evidently there is a petting zoo, horses, and even a SantaLand with free hot chocolate, gingerbread men, and photos with Santa.
In my area, you can literally walk out your front door and be right inside of a touching old-timey movie (of course, because I hate that kinda stuff). But I live here for my son (and my nephews/niece) NOT because I enjoy small-town festivities and the usual snoozefest that it is……
Either way, the kids are happy and I’m kind of interested to see some horses wearing costumes go prancing by my house today….
Merry Christmas other Grinches!!!! Suck it up for the kids!
Cute Kid-Related Update: Evidently my son and one of my nephews was SO damn cute sitting on Santa’s lap that now they’ll be in our newspaper…..figures. I know how our boys can ham it up when someone gets out a camera!!!! Gotta love the cuteness of kids, though…..
This is just info that I either verified since the last post…..or additional new info (such as the company info, address, and link) that I edited. I don’t want it to be confused with the original addresses and info that Miss X sent to me.
The residential address below is just a different apartment number in the same building (it’s a Condo that contains 422 units built in 1976):
Wiedmann, James C
Age:40-44
1778 Lanier Pl NW, Apt 8B
Washington, DC 20009-2190
Oh, and here is where Roissy’s work offices of “Financial Industry Regulatory Authority” (FINRA) are located in the Washington D. C. area. Please feel free to thank him yourselves
Since the original post containing Jim’s info, I have received emails directly from “friends of Roissy” who would rather not be named. I have no problem with that. According to those people, Roissy is “sorry” for the many posts he has used my name in and has admitted to “using Lady Raine to get more blog hits” and “posting slander” simply to make his blog more popular.
I don’t “hate” him for those things because he’s just another blogger trying to get readers (I guess it’s important to him?? Maybe he wants to be a “writer” or something??? I dunno.)
Anyway, Roissy offered to take down his posts about me and never post anything about me again if I agree to remove MY post about him.
Am I the only person who sees the REALLY raw deal in that? There are already other blogs that are providing links to the OLD blogs about me that Roissy already removed and just like I told Roissy’s “anonymous henchmen” in my message to him/her: ”He’s had those posts about me up for 6 months already. The damage is done in terms of people reading, copying, linking, reposting, saving, and even quoting those blogs. Taking them down now is rather pointless and DEFINITELY well after the fact.”
Basically, Roissy is too much of a pussy to man-up and “apologize” to me himself or even ASK me to take down my post himself. Honestly, it wouldn’t matter if he did ask, because of the very reasons I mentioned in my above quote…..but it just goes to show that some guy like Roissy who is supposedly a “Big Asshole & Proud Of It” is apparently a pussy-bitch who sends his “friends” with “notes” like in Grade School to ask me questions and “propose solutions” to a problem that HE created by being an ass-clown in the first place.
I think it’s obvious by this update that I have no intention of removing my information about Jim Wiedmann (Roissy) and may even feel so inclined to continue posting updates on new, fun things I find out about him…….
Why??? Because some people NEVER learn their lesson. (Which is why my Revenge Tips post exists and why people need it). Even after ALL the things that Roissy did, he STILL had to send his “friends” to try to fix his fuck-ups FOR him. That tells me that he hasn’t really “learned his lesson” at all like his anonymous friend claims he did.
I think that Genghis Khan said it best:
“Oh people, know that you have commited
great sins. If you ask me what proof I have
for these words, I say it is because I am
the punishment of God. If you had not
commited great sins, God would not have
sent a punishment like me upon you.”
I really couldn’t decide whether to compile a bunch of tech stuff and facts I found about the famous German U-boats (U-boots) because I am no pro by any means. However like most engineering feats, it’s certainly worth mentioning, re-mentioning, and re-studying.
The Germans were always well ahead of their time in things like Military Defense and Technology (among other things). Many of the most used weapons and defense used today by ALL militaries of the world were based on a more than a few “originally German” ideas. Love them or hate them, the Germans knew their shit……
I cannot imagine what about this poster made Germans want to join up....
U-boats are famous for a lot of reasons (most being horrible defeats suffered by the Allies mostly due to not being prepared for Germany to bust these bad-boys out).
Anyhow….I am posting the videos at the beginning and the “nerd talk” info at the end because I know some people just want a little info and some pics and would rather not scroll through all my bullshit. So to get you in a “creepy Nazi” mood we’ll start with some good old black & white German Propaganda images & video:
"Heer Eagle"
PART I:
PART II:
Here’s a little nerd talk “About U-boats” that I found on a great site for technical snippets of info: www.uboataces.com
Diagram of German U-Boats
I took the more general information and specs of the German U-boats and posted most of that, however the site is so technical that it breaks down all the different variations and models of U-Boats of that time period (which was a bit much so I took the general info for most of the statistic & specifications info here). There are more than a few different types of German U-boat that were popularly used including:
Each of the above types of U-boat also have several “sub-varieties” for each Type as well. They had A LOT of different versions of these floating weapons and certainly made sure that each had individual strengths (and subsequently weaknesses as well). That list is of clickable links to the site listed above if you’d like to read the specs of each different kind of boat, but it would be the longest blog ever if I went through each one here in detail.
Rare (color) shot of U-Boats
Here is a general “About U-Boats” segment:
The first attempt to use a submersible to sink a ship was made in 1776 during the American War of Independence. It did not succeed and was viewed by many as an unnecessary and troublesome vessel of war. However, by the end of The Second World War, the submarine was considered as the most powerful and destructive of all warships.
Unlike nuclear submarines, which could dive to depths of over 1,000 feet, travel thousands of miles submerged and remain on patrol for months at a time, the u-boat can operate submerged only for brief periods at a time. For the U-boat force, it was considered as a torpedo boat, with the special capability to submerge for attack or as a defensive measure – hence giving rise to the name Undersea Boat or U-boat. Even so, a U-boat is a highly sophisticated vessel of war, with hundreds of precision controls and a 45-man crew to operate.
To withstand sea water pressure, the crew and vital machinery are housed within a strong watertight steel cylinder, known as the pressure hull. Fitted outside the pressure hull is an external outer hull, a much thinner aerodynamic hull which streamlines the U-boat for underwater movement. Rudders and hydroplanes are mounted on the outer hull while the main ballast tanks are housed within. When submerged, a U-boat is virtually blind. In order to navigate underwater, special devices, which correspond to the eyes and ears are fitted to the outer hull.
On the surface, a U-boat operates much like any other vessel. Driven forward (or backward) by its propellers, rudders steer the boat left or right. It has to be in motion in order to make a turn and is subject to the shifts of wind and tide. Unlike a surface ship, a U-boat may also adjust its buoyancy, or ability to sink or float. When the ballast tanks are empty, the U-boat displaces positive buoyancy and floats to the surface. When the ballast tanks are flooded with water, the U-boat sinks to the bottom (negative buoyancy). To surface again, compressed air is blown into the ballast tanks, displacing ballast water from the tanks. This way, a U-boat is able to control its buoyancy so that it weighs exactly the same weight as the water surrounding it (neutral buoyancy). In this condition, it neither sinks nor float. Thus, a U-boat is able to rise or sink to the depths solely by manipulating its buoyancy. Buoyancy had to be kept in check often as it varies according to the amount of fuel onboard, ammunition expended, ocean depth and salinity of water. Buoyancy can change rapidly when torpedoes are launched. A ton of positive buoyancy is created when a torpedo leaves its tube, and has to be offset immediately with ballast water to prevent the U-boat from popping to the surface.
When at rest or moving slowly underwater, a U-boat has to be handled carefully as it has a tendency to tip up or down into a vertical position. In shallow water, it can rest on the sea bed. When moving forward, a pair of hydroplanes controls the vessel’s depth. U-boat commanders prefer to keep their boat at neutral buoyancy. In this condition, the boat can dive or surface rapidly without constant dependence on the limited compressed air.
The main propulsion of the U-boat is the diesel engine – of which there are two, one on each side (port and starboard). These engines consume outside air and were operable only on the surface. Later in the war, a special pipe (snorkel) was developed to draw outside air so that the diesel engines could operate while the submarine is just below the surface at periscope depth.
Onboard the electric motor room of U-889, a Type IXC.
The snorkel allows a U-boat to run its diesel engines when submerged. The observation scope is seen on the left, the attack periscope in the middle and snorkel on the right. It is fitted with a shutoff valve to prevent sea water from seeping in when the U-boat runs too deep.
At greater depths, the U-boat is driven by electric motors using electricity drawn from giant internal batteries. When these are depleted, they must be recharged. This is done by traveling on the surface, or while snorkeling at periscope depth. The diesel engines are used to turn the electric motors so that they act as dynamos (generators) to recharge the depleted batteries. For rapid recharge, both diesel engines would be clutched onto the electric motors. For maximum range, one diesel engine would be clutched to an electric motor – which in turn acted as a generator to drive the other electric motor. Both propellers were turning in this way with only one diesel running.
Atop the U-boat, the conning tower rises amidships. When surfaced, the U-boat is steered from the top of the conning tower. When submerged, it is operated from a control room directly below the conning tower. Inside the pressure hull, pressure doors divide the watertight bulkheads into compartments, which contain the machinery, armament, stores and living quarters.
So that the U-boat can view surface activity without being spotted, it is fitted with periscopes. Some U-boats are fitted with two periscopes, an attack periscope for observing and targeting surface ships and an observation periscope for scanning the horizon for aircraft. These are further fitted with magnification lenses which zoom mode could be toggled similar to a camera’s zoom lens.
The main armament of the U-boat is the torpedo. Mounted primarily on the forward end, some models also had rear torpedo tubes to allow for forward and backward targeting. Spare torpedoes were carried both internally, and externally beneath the outer hull. External torpedoes had to be reloaded on the surface, which was a risky exercise as diving was impossible until the transfer was complete. Designed to travel just beneath the ocean line, torpedoes are launched on the surface or at periscope depth. They could not be launched any deeper because the U-boat commander could not see the target. Later in the war, acoustic homing torpedoes were developed, which steer themselves automatically towards the propeller noise generated by the target ship. U-boats can also lay mines from their torpedo tubes. The ordnance was discharged from the tube by compressed air or by hydraulics.
Another development of the U-boat was the midget submarine. First developed during the Second World War, it was used mostly to attack anchored warships. The two main types were “human torpedoes” and “midget submarines”. The human torpedo was launched from a submarine just outside an enemy harbor and involved two frogmen sitting on a torpedo which steered it to its target. A timed warhead was attached to the enemy ship’s hull, the frogmen then withdrew leaving the timed fuse to detonate the warhead. Midget submarines were manned by a crew of 2 to 5. They were designed to lay large charges with timed fuses on the sea bed, just beneath the enemy warship so they blew up underneath the ship. This kind of attack would often break the ship’s hull in two.
Forward torpedo room of U-505. World war 2 torpedoes were very fickle and had to be pulled from its tube and serviced every two or three days.
Japanese midget submarines also took part in the attack on Pearl Harbor.
During the war, two British battleships were sunk in 1941 while anchored in the harbor of Alexandria, Egypt by Italian human torpedoes. In 1943, British midget submarines crippled the German battleship Tirpitz while at anchor in Altefjord, Norway. Midget submarines were also used with varying success by the German and Japanese navies. The US Navy however did not pursue the idea with the conception that the effort required did not justify the gains.
More fun Propaganda and Newspaper photos
Okay, so now we got the “fun facts” a little bit above so we’ll hit the awesome stuff….like WEAPONS!!! Again, these boats were equipped with (IMO) is a phenomenal amount of different kinds of weapons including 4 different kinds of torpedoes, 2 different deck guns, 3 different antiaircraft guns, 6 different types of mines, and even 3 different types of human torpedoes. Just remember…..this list is not including ANY of the regular equipment!!! Again, the below are clickable links to specs about each different weapon the U-Boats were equipped with if you want to read the specs:
Rigggggggght. Doesn’t that all seem really over the top for the early 1940’s? I find it so strange that there are so many variations of weapons that were necessary for the U-Boats given that they were already the bad-ass mofo’s of their time.
Kriegsmarine
Now. Of course we cannot forget the OTHER fun nerd stuff like equipment and radars. I love reading the individual specs and wrapping my mind around the kind of destruction each one of those things was capable of….in the hands of our most beloved Villain, good old Adolf!!!
You know….I would freaking LOVE to have any of this equipment! For even one day…..especially the sonar. I admit it. I’m a big dork and STILL use the stupid “sonar alert” on my Blackberry for all my text sounds. Yup, mock me if you will.
So. I added the fun section of creepy and random sounds from U-boats. Sounds of torpedoes, sonar, pings, mechanical sounds, sinking boats, and various other things that I would never ever want to hear in real life because I’d never be inside a u-boat or submarine for ANY reason.
I think I mentioned in my other post on Nuclear Submarines that I think people who have the balls to EVER go in a submarine or other creepy underwater weapon are the bravest people on earth. No seriously because you could not pay me enough money to do that……
but I think overall the German U-Boats and the Kriegsmarine win the “BALLS-O-STEEL” award along with the “Bad-Ass-Innovation” award too!!!
Index of Sounds:
U-Boat and Submarine Sounds
Various u-boat and submarine sounds, surfacing and diving, ambient noise, engine sound, running underwater, hatch closing, submarine sinking, and many more…
Torpedo Sounds
Sounds of torpedo passing underwater, torpedo launching, torpedo whoosh and much more…
Sonar Sounds
Sound of submarine sonar, sonar pings and clacks.
Surface Ship Sounds
Deck sound aboard Navy Frigate, engine room, increase throttle, ship’s wake, sinking ship, and much more
Now, let me just say this. I have never felt the need to dedicate a post to Roissy because we all know (in his many pathetic, repeated blog posts dedicated to me) that is exactly what he wants. He wants to be the “dark villain” and the “dangerous man”. Sadly, most women can see upon reading a few words of his that he is not a dangerous nor scary man. He’s a sad, lonely, 40’s-something guy…..stuck in a big city…..where he just can’t keep up with the competition (please refer to what he looks like and what he WEARS as a man his age to see what I am referring to).
*I am interested to see if Roissy “takes it like a man” or shrieks like a schoolgirl and demand it be removed. ( I say this because Roissy has felt free to find and post photos of me, my family, my personal info, and anything else he can find to “call me out”). I wonder if the “dishee” can also take it.*
Desperation drips from his false online persona like a broken rusty rain gutter that everyone gave up on fixing long ago……
If you are NOT familiar with blogger, “Roissy in DC“……I’d suggest you click and read a bit of his blog (you’re welcome, Roissy).
This is a man who claims to be a Master of Seduction, a Jesus-Like Savior of (wimpy) men, a Colossus of Gaming, and of course an all around “Ladies Man”.
He extols the virtues of dodging child support payments, physically intimidating your wives & girlfriends to “keep them in line”, and even encourages men to “raw-dog” it and have as much unprotected sex as you possibly can (gross….can you say STD’s and MORE babies in foster care???).
Unfortunately, the men he is preying upon don’t realize that he is NOT out to help them, NOT out “offer advice”, but out ONLY to reassure himself in his aging, middle-aged, desperation…..that ANYONE still wants to hear what he has to say.
You all know the expression “Well….if I’m going down….I’m taking everyone with me.” THAT is exactly what Roissy’s “Game” advice to men is. It’s like the crack under a recovering crack-heads nose…….the “miracle diet pill” to the lifetime Anorexic……and the walking, talking ENABLER of the further decline of modern men in today’s society. He encourages men to go back to the “id”…..the caveman inside themselves…….and care about nothing but eating, sleeping, and fucking.
Every step that man has taken forward in the world, Roissy helps them to take a step back. For every man who DOES have discipline and character (and self-control)……Roissy helps to enable 10 more NOT to be.
The chauvinism, arrogance, and cock-obsessed points aside……Roissy is a living breathing example of the stereotype that many men have been trying to not be a part of: drooling, horny, pussy-obsessed, “cocks-on-wheels” with not a thought in their head except finding a warm-hole. (Pardon the nasty expression, but that is the main thought process of men like these).
Anyway…..I received an email directly from a mysterious (and generous) Miss X. This is evidently a woman who feels much the same way that I do and is tired of witnessing this sort of degradation in our society as whole.
*NOTE: I will remove tidbits from the email that could/would give away the identity of “Miss X” and how she may be “familiar” with Roissy. I will also mark my own comments with *asterisks* and Italics so there is no confusion.*
Dear Lady Raine,
I’ve been a longtime admirer of your contributions to the debate at Roissy’s. However, his recent smugness has exceeded even my tolerance, and I thought I might offer a little birthday present to you to offset the bile you’ve received from him:
I believe I know Roissy’s real name.
I know that you like investigation…. take a look at James (Jim) C. Wiedmann, employed by FINRA (a private finance regulatory body in D.C.). Also interviewed in the Mail and Globe article “When Players Turn Into Boyfriends.” See if this rings any bells:
The pickup artist’s message for wannabe players and boyfriends alike is essentially “don’t be a wuss,” says J. Wiedmann, a Washington-based white-collar-crime investigator. Mr. Wiedmann, who did not want his full name used, launched his “reality-based seduction” blog, “Roissy in DC: Where Pretty Lies Perish,” last year. Reviled and beloved, the blog is full of devilish relationship strategies.
“I’ve written about the importance of instilling dread in your girlfriend by turning off your phone twice a week, or calling her from a busy place where women are laughing in the background … despite her protestations to the contrary, a little bit of uncertainty goes a long way to keeping her aroused for you,” Mr. Wiedmann said in an interview.
Aside from the usual fawning and vitriolic responses to his posts, Mr. Wiedmann has been seeing more pleas for relationship advice in his inbox lately. “Most of my male readers ask for advice on how to win that ‘one girl’ over. They’re struggling to get out of the discount bin of the sexual market,” he says.
He is 41. His birth day and month are the same as listed in this profile, but he lies about the year. This is what he looks like.
(http://www.puaconnect.com/roissy/)
If you’d like any further confirmation, try a Google search for “Roissy’s real name.”
He loves to brag about his exploits, but abuses women while hiding under a cloak of secrecy. And now he is making it a personal crusade to attack all the women on his blog who are still willing to stick around. Please be careful — some of the men at his site are very angry and seem a few minutes away from snapping.
From one woman to another,
Miss X
*I also received this in my comments section from another one of my readers*
You should send Roissy a nice thank you card:
Jim Wiedmann
1778 Lanier Pl NW #9C
Washington, DC 20009
*OH, JIM…….LOL…..what does one even say about this? Other than the fact that a 41 year old “finance-nerd” who dresses like he’s a 21 year old emo-prep college-boy. The fact that he constantly berates women and evidently LIES about his age even to his own readership is really rather funny. I recall so many articles talking about how “young hot women just LOVE old, pasty gross men” and now I know why he’s so desperate to get other men to believe this kind of thing.
You would think that JUST the fact that he’s a middle-aged, pasty-white finance-Jew posing as a playboy would be reason enough for people to disregard his opinions and advice (like most people already do)…..but there are and always will be looking for their “own personal jesus” to tell them it’s okay to hate women, hate life, hate responsibility, hate morals, hate “hard work”, and hate ANYONE AND EVERYONE that you can possibly think of to blame for being what they have become.
This falls into my “Why People Are Assholes” post. Roissy may not be a big-name who is going to influence anyone who actually matters……but he’s certainly known enough to be influencing men who otherwise may have turned to look at THEMSELVES (yes I know introspection is a crazy concept for guys like him) for their failures/shortcomings in life.
It’s a dangerous world we live in when there is a “miracle pill”, a quick fix, and a (insert random group) to blame for everything a person DOESN’T do to be responsible for their own lives.
Our good friend Jimmy-The-Jew, here is just one of them.*
Yes, Gentlemen....THIS is the man you are asking for advice on picking up ladies.....(Note: The....errr..."artwork" done to this pic wasn't done by me. This is the way the photo was when I saved it, lol)
*Yes, Ladies I know…..it’s hard to control yourself in the presence of such an Adonis, but please try to remain calm for the sake of our female dignity.*
Update: Much like I expected….some of Roissy’s shrieking henchman came here telling me I have “stepped over the line”. For a bit on the “history”….this is the first time I have published a “post about Roissy” on my blog. Roissy has published at least 6 or more posts specifically about me. Containing personal photos of me AND MY son….which is “unsavory” in the first place. But he then continued over the past 6 months to try to slander me, give out personal info (like mentioning the town I live in as often as he can) and worst of all posts porno videos and says that it is ME in the video (and isn’t.) He has publicly posted lies on his blog accusing me of prostitution AND pornography and attached my photos to the (complete lies) he is telling.
I never really bothered posting about it here on my blog, because anyone who knows me in real life knows those things aren’t true and are ridiculous…..but that doesn’t change the fact that Roissy likes to go and play in people’s lives and slander innocent people for his own amusement and to up his blog stats without remorse and without even having a good motive to do it. Just because it gets him attention.
Well I think it’s high time someone finally fixed his little red wagon, and I’m certainly the woman for the job
*Update: November 25*
Here is another address that is identical except for a different Apartment number…..ooops guess it WAS a residential address….silly old me with my tiny female brain…..
Wiedmann, James C
Age:40-44
1778 Lanier Pl NW, Apt 8B
Washington, DC 20009-2190
Oh, and here is where Roissy’s work offices of “Financial Industry Regulatory Authority” (FINRA) are located in the Washington D. C. area. Please feel free to swing into Mr. Wiedmann’s offices and thank him yourselves
*Those are dedicated RIGHT to Roissy for the post back in June where he posted my son’s name, age, and photo without my permission (and involving kids is the lowest you can go anyhow):*
The reason this one is called “Cause & Effect” is because I’m making it to touch on and review exactly WHY I told you those tips specifically, what will happen next, and how it benefits you in the future (of your revenge-getting), and WHY those tips work best!!!! (Or at least I’ll attempt to…….)
I know it's childish to say so, but I died laughing upon seeing this.
*cracks knuckles and “shakes it off” (okay no, cracking knuckles is disgusting….but you get the point).*
I hope you all now realize why I gave you a little time to let this stuff sink in…..and give you time to actually consider it, check out the info, and realize what sort of golden ticket you have been handed IF you are successful in doing ANY of the things listed in Part I (or The Lady’s Revenge: Helpful Hints on Dealing with an Asshole).
SO. Once you are comfortable with the site I gave you (black book) and playing around with it a bit to find out public criminal records…….
and have also given you an idea or two on how to MANIPULATE those records and the information you may have found…….
Do you realize that you are no longer the prey, have SURPASSED the predator, and are essentially now DICTATING what crime will next appear on that very criminal record?
Let’s say you do the “anonymous tip” thing but are worried that they person “isn’t really a drug dealer…..they just smoke a little weed and probably have some on them”.
You probably figure that the cops wouldn’t bother with a random “bigtime drug dealer” tip or two. You would be wrong. Sad as it is….most police departments never get to see a “big day” where they are accredited and praised for “busting a serial-killer” or “bringing down a violent rapist on the run”……because there are far more small towns then there are gigantic cities with tons of that stuff and MOST local PD’s don’t see any “action” of that caliber.
For whatever reason, police departments are given A LOT of credit for bringing down even a small-town weed dealer. You cannot fault them for this because they need those big busts to receive more funding, more gear, more technology….etc. You must remember that even a “small town weed dealer” usually WILL move enough product to put numbers in the millions. Anything with “Million Dollar Drug Bust” attached to small town PD looks good.
What seems like a probably not-so-effective idea like an “anonymous tip about a drug dealer” is actually an EXCELLENT way to ensure that the tip is followed up on. Plenty of REAL drug dealers dime out their competition this way and the tip line has no interest in the reason WHY you are calling them. (My point is that you shouldn’t trip out and be like “omg what if they ask me WHY I’m tipping them” and are worried about getting in trouble. ) It’s legal and acceptable to call a tip line. It’s THEIR job to decide where it’s something worth following up on.
Next, you wonder “but what will the cops do when they get there?” Well, in many states (including PA) your “anonymous tip” alone is REASONABLE SUSPICION for the police to search the person and the home without a warrant.
Yup, that’s right. This is a gray area but “reasonable suspicion” and actual “evidence” are two completely different things. They don’t NEED “evidence” at this point.
So basically, you enjoyed knowing that even if your enemy DOESN’T have a “large quantity of drugs” and maybe just a bong and a dimebag…..the police are still going to beat on his door, search him, possibly search his ENTIRE HOME (including being allowed to tear it up to a reasonable degree without punishment), interrogate him, possibly arrest him (if he has a bong and a dime, that’s good enough), and definitely fine the shit out of him, make him go to court, and most importantly…..
RUIN HIS FUCKING DAY.
Commit that one to memory and use it often because it’s a quick, painless, fix to ANYONE you know who might have a little something illegal on them at any time…..
Once you have used the simple “anonymous tip” method (or for drinkers the “remove the license plate and wait happily for them to get slapped with a DUI” method) you have put yourself in the driver’s seat of their life in more ways than one.
1. You know THEIR criminal record now, probably their current address, possibly where everyone he/she knows is located, who he/she works for, and even what charges he has pending but hasn’t been charged with YET (ie: whatever you got your enemy busted for).
2. You know EXACTLY what they’re GOING to be charged for because now you know how to access their criminal files whenever you want. The site I linked (BlackBookOnline) for criminal records searches is pretty fast in updating their files and DUI’s especially usually take about 6 months before you even GO to court and officially lose your license and all that. Meaning the site will update the records as “new shit happens” and something official is done, so as long as you check back and search them periodically, you will know EXACTLY when, what, and how much he paid due to his “new criminal charges”.
3. You have the intimate knowledge that they are already getting charged with a crime or two SOON. This is the time that you just randomly needle them with petty vandalism and essentially “doing shit to make them think they’re going crazy”. All anonymously, of course. All you need is for THEM to slip up and do something that you can call the cops about and/or get them charged with another crime that would normally be no big deal…….
but when you have a pending DUI and/or Drug charge???? NOW every little crime is a big deal for your hated offender.
YES. Now do you see why I said “you will literally now be the dictator of their life”????
The information you KNOW and the part you played in the revenge so far is what will keep you sooooooo many steps ahead of that person that as long as you STAY PATIENT, STAY CONFIDENT, and remember that old expression: ”You know what happens when you give someone a long enough piece of rope?”
Yes, yes we all know this…..”They hang themselves.” If you have gotten THIS far (somewhat successfully) in the revenge, you need to settle down and just concentrate now on “doing things that would make a normal person think they’re losing their mind”.
So basically, now it’s the fun stuff. No technicalities or legal-speak, just go back to your childhood roots where you light poop on fire on people’s doorsteps, or smashed a mailbox, or strategically placed roofing nails all over the driveway carefully concealed by the falling autumn leaves
You get the picture. No cop on earth gives a fuck about stupid vandalism shit like this, because it’s hard to prove and not worth the effort to file, cite, and show up in court for.
This person is going to lose it and do something dumb/illegal that you can call them in for. They now have no job, no pride (because everyone saw the criminal records you sent out) no money, and several criminal charges, fines, and possible jailtime…..they are a loose cannon emotionally and normally “just irritating” childish pranks suddenly make this person flip-out, go crazy, and fuck themselves.
Let’s not ever forget the enjoyment factor of watching the person unravel, shall we?
So for now….I shall leave you at that. If you have implemented the tips provided in Part I, then now you understand Part II……
*Don’t be irritated with me, I know a “review” sucks but if someone is actually actively GETTING revenge on someone following along here, I totally don’t want to mess that up !!!….I’m trying to feed your creative sides and make it so you will be able to do this easily and regularly IF NEEDED like I can*
Please remember, that thus far the ONLY outwardly “illegal” thing is STILL “removing the license plate” and the small vandalism stuff. It seems like it would be bullshit and not work unless you morphed into a criminal and broke a bunch of laws in order for it to work…..but that’s not the case.
Everything I suggest here will make me mighty unpopular amongst the Private Investigators, Cops, Lawyers, Assholes who know someone is going to do this stuff to them,…..
Yes, yes…..save it. I know….”Lady Raine is all that is unholy and evil in this world and should be ashamed of herself…..boooooo!”.
*Duly noted. And I offer my advance apologies for whatever my unholiness causes! *
